That's just a wet dream. The truth is that if we don't take care of the underlying problems of the world as it is today (poverty, hunger and lack of sustainable technologies/application of these), our society would collapse.

When you multiply they population by 10, you have to multiply the amount of cars in the world by 10, unless we work seriously on public transport. Multiply the amount of food produced by 10 and the water available by 10.

In the FUTURE all of this will be possible but we need SHORT TERM solutions if we want to see that future.

That there is a difference between application and what's on paper, that communism by Marx's position wouldn't call on the slaughter of theists while communism by Stalin would.

The second thing that I said above was that Stalin slew not just theists but atheists as well, the numbers for the atheists can't seem as large as the christian numbers only because there were less of them and they were harder to pick out. You can't exactly figure out what a person is if they have no belief - it was only by the fact that these atheists were in political or social opposition to Stalin that they were bought to death.

It isn't such a complicated fact to grab, Stalin killed anyone who was against him or held opposing ideologies. It can only be hard to understand by a theist in denial of the fact that religion is policy making and thus Stalin sought to be rid of that as well. That by doing this all Stalin was doing was exercising his powers as a despot.

But that doesnt disprove my points. Communism IS agaisnt organised religion adn Stalin DID persecute theists.An atheist Stalin with communist regime,(which is atheism supported ideology) persecuted, enslaved and killed theists, because they were religios people. He also did persecute atheists but not because they were atheists, because he was an atheist himself

I see, your issue is that you don't see Religion as a political ideology as well, I'm sorry but I've asked what the difference was so many times I forgot that theists can make that distinction on no grounds what so ever. Religion is a beleif based system, politics is not, its only simillar to politics if you look at the political leader as greater power than man, the flawless Lord of

I could say that Christianity, Islam, Judeism and so on all attempt to craft policy or in otherwords each has ways in which they dictate what to do to the common manThey dont dicate they give you a choice, you dont have to follow them or thier rules. If God was controlling all of our minds that you would have a point, but He gave us free will, so He isnt dictating anyone., that god or jesus is the top of the food chainBecause the one is God and the other is the son of God, the last time i checked, the Stalin wasnt neither. He was a mortal man. so to speak and that theists do not see this as a form of totalitarianism and that if Jesus or Mohammad or the son of David were to exist now they would if their doctrine followed to the T be just as likely despots like Stalin was, I forgot that theists do not see it that way.They would be followed, but they wouldnt be feard of, and the people would still have the CHOICE NOT to listend to them, and that means its not a dicttorship, like in Stalins case

The logic here is simple:

Christianity sais Jesus or the Lord or both or even a Holy Spirit or for some people Joseph Smith must be loved and feared.

It never said Jesus must be feard of, and I never even heard of this Jospeh Smith Guy, and if God said people must obbey him, He would just make us do so, like Stalin did to his people, he wouldnt give us free will

Stalin sais he must be loved and feared

And almost everyone who didnt ended up working like slave or dead

Atheism sais they are both wrong, you shouldn't have to love someone much less love someone you fear - the essance of sadomasochism.

Communisam supports atheism, its an atheist ideology, it banns religion, denies God and it persecutes theists. Its a wel know fact

If you want a real example of a Stalin like communism today look no further than North Korea. Where the dear leader Kim Jong-il was mythed to have been born and birds sang of it in Korean of none-the-less.

Yet he was still a man. You seem to have a problem making the difrence between these God and a man. I mean, are you seriously comparing God and Lord Jesus Christ to Stalin and Kim II Sung?

If you ask any North Korean Kim is a god, the only other god for them is the great leader which is his father Kim Il- Sung who is still president by the way. (He's dead)

My answers to ur 3 last posts in bolded. I will not come back and argue anymore because 1) I dont wanna get in antoher long boring religious debate 2) The stuff what you are saying doesnt disporve my point at all. it just compares communisam to religois policy, which has nothing to do with my point

1. It's hard to avoid religious debating when you accuse non-belief of the murder of the religous.

2. The distinction I'm trying to get across to you is that there are varying forms of Communism.

--- In response to some of your points.

You do understand that back saying Atheist your are saying non-believer? The single requirement of an Atheist is to not believe in a god. Needless to say the diversity is huge in that way with the diferent legitimate perspectives one would find within the Atheist community in any country.

That Religon is a world view and that Atheism is not, a person who is Atheist could see the world through science if they wanted to or see it through philosophy or some other device, usually those devices are what practically make Atheism not just possible but extremly viable.

In the end if a comparison must be drawn between Atheists vs Religous positions and something else. It would be something like Slave owning vs non-slave owning. What do you call someone who doesn't want to be to own a slave or even support that system? I'm hoping the point didn't miss you for this post.

Again I said that usually give a question which gets the Theist critical faculties working, on topics like Stalin otherwise they go into complete denial of the obvious. It would be forgivable if it were just a misaprehension of some sort but I dont think it is... it's just denial.

So your whole point: Atheist belief system >>> Theist belief system. Yeah, ok, cool story

Still doesnt disprove what I said in the first place. You try to explain stuff that doesnt matter.

I'm not sure if you even read my post, I didn't compare the two points. Your actually incorrect their as well, Atheism isn't a belief system that is comparible to Theist belief systems. Apples and oranges.

The crux of a theist belief system is found through faith, in otherwords drawing conclusions for things in the absence of evidence, the reason it isn't comparible is because Atheists can't make the assumption nor it's opposite. Instead Atheists say and this is a quote, Unicorns could exist but for all that we know they do not and life goes on regardless of believing in them or not.

Again, I didn't compare them I keep saying this and this will be my last time saying it.

Stalin did kill theists for their beliefs so far as their beliefs were with effect on the ideology of the people he wished to subjugate. This was the same reason he killed everyone else which throws out the shock of value by saying he gunned down Theists because they believed in god. In the end Stalin became an arguable saint of the Russian orthodoxy so with that said it's clear he didn't care what ideology propped him up so long as he remained in power.