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LivingMetal said:
thranx said:
LivingMetal said:
thranx said:
phinch1 said:
greenmedic88 said:

Update: The BBC reports that while Hotz is acknowledging he is in fact in South America, the trip was planned "for months" and that he remains in contact with his lawyers. On his blog, Hotz wrote:

Factually, it's true I'm in South America, on a vacation I've had planned and paid for since November. I mean, it is Spring break; hacking isn't my life.

 

Either BBC is doing their April Fool's jokes a week early and have Hotz in on the joke as well, or everyone can accept this story as confirmed. 

yes yes ive just read this on N4G and he also claims that he hasnt spent a dime of the donations on this holiday.........

bs

Have any proof to back up your claim or just your hate for Geohot? I mean I know he had absolutly no money before the donations for his lawyer right? How could he have paid for a vacation? Come on now

 

So the vacation is more important than financing his legal fees?  Donations or no donations, those legal fees need to be given higher financial priority over a vacation.

EDIT: Also, do you honestly think that everyone who honestly and reasonably believe that geohot is in the wrong, morally and legally, all hate him?

He already stated he got plenty from the donations for legal fees. Any left over donations after the legal fees are paid will be donated. He had already paid for the vacation. I assumed you hated him cause you seem to have no other reason to accuse him of using the donations for a vacation.


I can assume you wanted him to win because you are anti-Sony/PS3.  But I'm taking the high road while not accussing you of being too gulible and taking things for face value.

I know this may be revolutionary thinking for you, but maybe, just maybe, he wants him to win because he wants to definitely say that whatever he bought with his own money is his to do with as he pleases and if he wants to tell others about what they too can do with the things they bought he should be able to.



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slowmo said:
Kratos said:

Oh this above is all just my opinion, but i'm scared to share it because you know, this is vgchartz. If you don't like hotz or do like him you get scolded for being a moron or whatever. I'm starting to lose faith in the people on this site. It's just sad

:(


Oh please, the number of Hotz haters on this site is three fold his supporters, this thread alone proves that.

True but that doesn't mean whe shouldn't respect people's opinions. I agree with some people that this lawsuit is getting ridiculous, and there is no proof yet that the guy has done anything wrong... But i still think he's a douche for the way he acts IMHO. And to be fair sony is also acting like a child :P



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I believe GeoHotz on his trip being for spring break. Sorry if he has a life people, he wasn't ordered to stay. So many people want to see him hang... Don't you realize he's fighting for YOUR rights? That and not going to jail for breaking into a console... Everyone loved him for hackign the iPhone... now you all hate him because "OMGZ THE PS3 HAZ TEH GAMES ON BLEU-RAYZ DAT CAN BE PIRHATYID!!11!1!!!" Guess what? iPhones have games you buy too, and I see people jailbreaking them daily and getting pirated games.

Geohotz haters can fuck off.




LivingMetal said:
thranx said:
LivingMetal said:
thranx said:
phinch1 said:
greenmedic88 said:

Update: The BBC reports that while Hotz is acknowledging he is in fact in South America, the trip was planned "for months" and that he remains in contact with his lawyers. On his blog, Hotz wrote:

Factually, it's true I'm in South America, on a vacation I've had planned and paid for since November. I mean, it is Spring break; hacking isn't my life.

 

Either BBC is doing their April Fool's jokes a week early and have Hotz in on the joke as well, or everyone can accept this story as confirmed. 

yes yes ive just read this on N4G and he also claims that he hasnt spent a dime of the donations on this holiday.........

bs

Have any proof to back up your claim or just your hate for Geohot? I mean I know he had absolutly no money before the donations for his lawyer right? How could he have paid for a vacation? Come on now

 

So the vacation is more important than financing his legal fees?  Donations or no donations, those legal fees need to be given higher financial priority over a vacation.

EDIT: Also, do you honestly think that everyone who honestly and reasonably believe that geohot is in the wrong, morally and legally, all hate him?

He already stated he got plenty from the donations for legal fees. Any left over donations after the legal fees are paid will be donated. He had already paid for the vacation. I assumed you hated him cause you seem to have no other reason to accuse him of using the donations for a vacation.


I can assume you wanted him to win because you are anti-Sony/PS3.  But I'm taking the high road while not accussing you of being too gulible and taking things for face value.

Oh please. You can read any of my post about all of this. its pretty clear that I am pro consumer and anti corporation. Not anti sony. I was merely talking about him stating that Geohotz used the donations for his vacation. I do not think any one against Geohotz hates him, I more think they are not looking at all the implications this would bring. I mean its funny that its ok to jailbreak the iphone, but not the ps3? All I care about is that we as consumers retain ownership of our property. Most people who are anti Geohots seem to think this about piracy and the psn, but they are not sueing for that are they?



phinch1 said:


Just general human nature, so ok he paid for his holiday in november, gets taken to court and needs to raise money to pay for this because he can't afford the costs, whats did he use for spending money on this holiday? $11k goes into his  acount and you honestly think he hasnt spent a penny of it......

Regardless, he still has to pay his legal fees and court costs. About the only funding in question for all those who are suddenly so interested in Hotz' finances would be whatever's left over that he pledged to donate when the case is resolved.



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vlad321 said:
 

I know this may be revolutionary thinking for you, but maybe, just maybe, he wants him to win because he wants to definitely say that whatever he bought with his own money is his to do with as he pleases and if he wants to tell others about what they too can do with the things they bought he should be able to.

But it's not revolutionary thinking.

I can't legally register my car in the state of California because it has a non OEM engine swap in addition to numerous aftermarket modifications that make it illegal to drive on public roads.

I can't legally modify any of my firearms to the degree that they fall outside the specifications of state law. Simple things like a threaded barrel, flash suppressor, a folding or collapsible stock, an interchangeable box magazine, a bayonet lug, a protruding pistol grip  can be the difference between a legal firearm and what is classified as a Class III "assault rifle." This is nothing to say of any such modifications that would allow a weapon to fire more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger.

If you buy a truck full of fertilizer, you're not allowed to bake it into a homemade bomb either for that matter using common household items.



greenmedic88 said:
vlad321 said:
 

I know this may be revolutionary thinking for you, but maybe, just maybe, he wants him to win because he wants to definitely say that whatever he bought with his own money is his to do with as he pleases and if he wants to tell others about what they too can do with the things they bought he should be able to.

But it's not revolutionary thinking.

I can't legally register my car in the state of California because it has a non OEM engine swap in addition to numerous aftermarket modifications that make it illegal to drive on public roads.

I can't legally modify any of my firearms to the degree that they fall outside the specifications of state law. Simple things like a threaded barrel, flash suppressor, a folding or collapsible stock, an interchangeable box magazine, a bayonet lug, a protruding pistol grip  can be the difference between a legal firearm and what is classified as a Class III "assault rifle." This is nothing to say of any such modifications that would allow a weapon to fire more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger.

If you buy a truck full of fertilizer, you're not allowed to bake it into a homemade bomb either for that matter using common household items.

The car and gun parts are complete BS that should be legal. If the gun part is true, id be making tons of "assault rifles" just so I can say I own one. lol

The last part... I kind of understand it being illegal.. but im sensing sarcasm from this part.



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greenmedic88 said:
vlad321 said:
 

I know this may be revolutionary thinking for you, but maybe, just maybe, he wants him to win because he wants to definitely say that whatever he bought with his own money is his to do with as he pleases and if he wants to tell others about what they too can do with the things they bought he should be able to.

But it's not revolutionary thinking.

I can't legally register my car in the state of California because it has a non OEM engine swap in addition to numerous aftermarket modifications that make it illegal to drive on public roads.

I can't legally modify any of my firearms to the degree that they fall outside the specifications of state law. Simple things like a threaded barrel, flash suppressor, a folding or collapsible stock, an interchangeable box magazine, a bayonet lug, a protruding pistol grip  can be the difference between a legal firearm and what is classified as a Class III "assault rifle." This is nothing to say of any such modifications that would allow a weapon to fire more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger.

If you buy a truck full of fertilizer, you're not allowed to bake it into a homemade bomb either for that matter using common household items.


Strangly though you are allowed to post how to make bombs and or gun attachments on the internet, but not how to jailbreak your ps3?



greenmedic88 said:
vlad321 said:
 

I know this may be revolutionary thinking for you, but maybe, just maybe, he wants him to win because he wants to definitely say that whatever he bought with his own money is his to do with as he pleases and if he wants to tell others about what they too can do with the things they bought he should be able to.

But it's not revolutionary thinking.

I can't legally register my car in the state of California because it has a non OEM engine swap in addition to numerous aftermarket modifications that make it illegal to drive on public roads.

I can't legally modify any of my firearms to the degree that they fall outside the specifications of state law. Simple things like a threaded barrel, flash suppressor, a folding or collapsible stock, an interchangeable box magazine, a bayonet lug, a protruding pistol grip  can be the difference between a legal firearm and what is classified as a Class III "assault rifle." This is nothing to say of any such modifications that would allow a weapon to fire more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger.

If you buy a truck full of fertilizer, you're not allowed to bake it into a homemade bomb either for that matter using common household items.

THe car is a pisspoor analogy. You can drive it, own it, and do whatever you want to do with it, just not on the public roads. I'm not exactly sure, but I bet you can probably go on a tack and use it there.

Give me a use for a gun other than murdering a living being, or show me that the PS3 murder living beings, and we can begin talking. Otherwise, that was a really nice stretch of logic.

You know, I'm fairly sure you can do that with your fertilizer, just don't blow it up such that it harms living beings or public property. I guess you should have a pretty big property to do that. Again though, when your PS3 starts exploding and shit, give me a call. Another funny stretch.

Funny I can go get that anarchy cookbook and proceed to share it with people, and that is perfectly legal. For some reason I however cannot go and post how to utilize your PS3 better. Funny isn't it.



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ssj12 said:
greenmedic88 said:
vlad321 said:
 

I know this may be revolutionary thinking for you, but maybe, just maybe, he wants him to win because he wants to definitely say that whatever he bought with his own money is his to do with as he pleases and if he wants to tell others about what they too can do with the things they bought he should be able to.

But it's not revolutionary thinking.

I can't legally register my car in the state of California because it has a non OEM engine swap in addition to numerous aftermarket modifications that make it illegal to drive on public roads.

I can't legally modify any of my firearms to the degree that they fall outside the specifications of state law. Simple things like a threaded barrel, flash suppressor, a folding or collapsible stock, an interchangeable box magazine, a bayonet lug, a protruding pistol grip  can be the difference between a legal firearm and what is classified as a Class III "assault rifle." This is nothing to say of any such modifications that would allow a weapon to fire more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger.

If you buy a truck full of fertilizer, you're not allowed to bake it into a homemade bomb either for that matter using common household items.

The car and gun parts are complete BS that should be legal. If the gun part is true, id be making tons of "assault rifles" just so I can say I own one. lol

The last part... I kind of understand it being illegal.. but im sensing sarcasm from this part.

No, you'd find yourself in jail for firearms violations. If people actually think SCE is being extreme in their measures to secure their platform, they know absolutely nothing about the BATF. Forget the IRS; the BATF is one agency I would be quite happy to never have any dealings with ever.

And the laws aren't BS. It only takes a small number of parts to convert an AR-15 semi-automatic to an M-4 automatic. They are heavily regulated for obvious and thankful reasons and require an obscene amount of paperwork, background checks and a sizeable amount of money to purchase under license.

The other laws were simply an attempt to close loopholes in the sales of civilian versions of military weapons by defining common features as being "assault rifle" features. Putting a folding stock a pistol grip and a bayonet lug on a black powder musket doesn't make it an assault rifle, but technically by law it once was. The Federal Anti-Crime Law regulating these features expired, but in states like California, they remain where having even two such features constitutes an "assault rifle" (for example, any centerfire rifle with a pistol grip and a removable box magazine).

Anyone who understands how the firearms game is played doesn't go out of their way to advertise anything as being an "assault weapon," which quite frankly would only appeal to the very type of jackass that no reasonable person would want possessing a firearm of any sort. Civilian versions of military weapons (semi-auto, regardless of other features) are marketed and sold as "sporter rifles" as they aren't being sold for assaulting anything.