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CDiablo said:

Nice! EA will be sure to pass on the savings to the consumer......right?


Wouldn't that be like 10 cents per cosumer lol?



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Manuals are redundant now anyway.



ssj12 said:
Xen said:

Here's hoping that it doesn't turn into some kinda trend...


why? while this is more of a profit motive then an environmental one, as an environmentalist I support this. Reduce paper, reduce waste, reduce deforesting. Basically a win-win-win.

Except majority of paper comes from forest planted especially for that reason.



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osamanobama said:
ssj12 said:

I wonder how many trees this will save.


none, more trees get planted for everyone that is cut down. thats the law


yes, because illegal deforestation isn't happening >.> it happens even in the USA. It might be against the law, but many companies want profits and will not plant trees after they are done.



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ssj12 said:
osamanobama said:
ssj12 said:

I wonder how many trees this will save.


none, more trees get planted for everyone that is cut down. thats the law


yes, because illegal deforestation isn't happening >.> it happens even in the USA. It might be against the law, but many companies want profits and will not plant trees after they are done.

well most places especially america, there are more and more trees, than there has been for hundreds of years.

i know there is some deforestation (like amazon) but thats not from paper making. most paper comes from "forests" that are specifically planted for paper.

and if a company (especially us company) gets cought breaking the law, they will be punished just like any other company



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osamanobama said:
ssj12 said:

I wonder how many trees this will save.


none, more trees get planted for everyone that is cut down. thats the law


its funny how that isn't happening

because by the time i have wrote this around million trees have been thorn down in the amazon. 



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I don't mind this, but they should include manuals for games like Dragon Age, etc - where it's f*cking complex to remember everything.

Games like God of War, fine.



SSJ12, you poor, sad man.  When a businessman wants to make a profit they will sell whatever makes them money.  If paper makes them money, they will keep replanting trees as long as they can keep making money.  As soon as paper drops in value, though, they will clear-cut those forests for whatever makes money. 

Millions of acres of forests will be destroyed if we as a world go paper-less, because the people that own that land in fact do not have to plant trees there in most cases.  I know where the idea came from, but it's localized to pretty specific parts of the country (in the US, and non-existant in most of the world).  A tree is planted for each that is cut down because the land-owner wants profits not just today but in ten years as well, not because they are told they have to.  If paper is unprofitable, they will plant something else, and no one will actually stop them (regardless of laws, even, outside of the small bits of land reserved by the government... which are generally hardwood forests and unsuitable for paper-making to begin with) because business always trumps ideals.  Our insatiable urge for paper pre-internet actually caused the US to become REforested, and the opposite will happen as we use less of it. 

Economics trumps everything else in the end, and if you really care about there being trees then the paper industry is your best friend.  Any illegal tree cutting is either linked to hard wood (building materials) or appropriating land for agriculture (like in the rain forest, where no one is going to give a damn about your opinion) and perhaps the occsional Christmas tree.  But its not linked to soft wood (used for paper), and any amount of work to eliminate paper does nothing to stop that illegal harvesting.

If you really want to see more trees and not less, support the industries that actually have a vested interest in them existing.  Paper companies want their resources to last them as long as possible, people trying to make ranches and houses really don't.

 

Seriously, though, in advanced countries paper has been a force for reforestation in areas that had been deforested for agriculture.  If you take away their profits you take away their motivation to plant trees.  And once that becomes finalized, I guarentee you that you'll be seeing less trees around the world instead of more.



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mchaza said:
osamanobama said:
ssj12 said:

I wonder how many trees this will save.


none, more trees get planted for everyone that is cut down. thats the law


its funny how that isn't happening

because by the time i have wrote this around million trees have been thorn down in the amazon. 

And none of them for paper.  Those trees are felled because the people want to raise cattle or create farms.  If the trees themselves were valuable, the people felling them would have a vested interest in future trees existing.



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Some games like RPG's with complex battle systems or fighting games like Streetfighter or WWE Smackdown with complicated controls should have them.  FPS's, TPS's, Racers, Puzzle Games, etc. can go without.

Then again, most PSP games that I download from the PSN and ALL of the PS1 games go this route and it ain't that bad.  It will just take some getting used to.  Sign of the times, I guess.