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famousringo said:

"Publishers have clearly reallocated their resources to the HD platforms..."

Something here doesn't add up...

?

What's the problem?  It seems like a perfectly valid and true statement, albeit one from 2006.

NYANKS said:

No, it's the way of bad business.  Apple seems to be okay.  Berkshire Hathaway and Johnson and Johnson seem to be fine.  Activision just doesn't do business well.  How in Holy Hell do you possess World of Warcraft as a money source and somehow the Activision wing is still able to put the whole company in the red?

Activison-Blizzard lost money?  Serious question, this is the first I've heard of it.



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SuperAdrianK said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
RolStoppable said:
famousringo said:

"Publishers have clearly reallocated their resources to the HD platforms..."

Something here doesn't add up...

"They can get to a certain level of success with their own IPs and their own internal development, but if they don’t have that developer ecosystem where it’s frankly easy to make money on the platform, they’re going to see there are too many opportunities in the world right now to go build games on other platforms in a very successful high quality, highly profitable way."

Yup, it doesn't add up. The publisher who lost money for years is talking about how non-Nintendo platforms are highly profitable. EA sure knows how to run a business.


So they don't even know they are losing money.

Seriously, that is either the most stupid and/or the most delusional thing I've heard from developers in... months.


You've heard worse? Pm me links if you don't feel like derailing this thread, and I'll be the judge of that.


I don't feel like trawling archives anyway, but some blogs like Malstrom and GJAIF have records of dumb comments.

Also, oops on my part. I don't think the guy is actually a developer himself, just an exec.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

noname2200 said:
famousringo said:

"Publishers have clearly reallocated their resources to the HD platforms..."

Something here doesn't add up...

?

What's the problem?  It seems like a perfectly valid and true statement, albeit one from 2006.

NYANKS said:

No, it's the way of bad business.  Apple seems to be okay.  Berkshire Hathaway and Johnson and Johnson seem to be fine.  Activision just doesn't do business well.  How in Holy Hell do you possess World of Warcraft as a money source and somehow the Activision wing is still able to put the whole company in the red?

Activison-Blizzard lost money?  Serious question, this is the first I've heard of it.

http://bobmixnews.com/activision-blizzard-loses-233-million-october-december-418m-profit-2010.html



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Salnax said:
noname2200 said:
famousringo said:

"Publishers have clearly reallocated their resources to the HD platforms..."

Something here doesn't add up...

?

What's the problem?  It seems like a perfectly valid and true statement, albeit one from 2006.

NYANKS said:

No, it's the way of bad business.  Apple seems to be okay.  Berkshire Hathaway and Johnson and Johnson seem to be fine.  Activision just doesn't do business well.  How in Holy Hell do you possess World of Warcraft as a money source and somehow the Activision wing is still able to put the whole company in the red?

Activison-Blizzard lost money?  Serious question, this is the first I've heard of it.

http://bobmixnews.com/activision-blizzard-loses-233-million-october-december-418m-profit-2010.html


It was alreay discussed, and it was just because they don't count the revenues from the CoD games in this quarter, but do count the marketing costs. Silly, but it's a way to further inflate the next quarter. They did the same with Modern Warfare 2.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

EA, the Wii has been a legacy for you since it was launched in chritsmas 2006. What a shame that videogames industry is flooded by companies like you.



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Metallicube said:
Carl2291 said:

If we see a Wii 2 this Year Worldwide, and Nintendo discontinues the Wii, what would the chances be of the 360 or PS3 ever reaching the Wii's total and thus winning the generation?

I hope the Wii 2 releases this Year...

Keep dreamin..

First of all, a new Nintendo console is not coming this year. In fact, it is unlikely that it'll even come next year. Second, even if it did come this year, the HD consoles have 0 chance to reach Wii's sales. Boggles my mind that there are a few out there that still believe this could happen.

In response to the topic, I think it's funny that EA says third party on Wii is a difficult investment. It is only difficult because they make it that way. If you honestly can't find a way to churn up a decent success with an 85 million userbase, you'd have to figure the problem is not with the console, but YOUR company. If they actually tried to succeed on the platform, or figuring out the audience, instead of just shrugging their shoulders and throwing out terrible shovelware and ports, they might find decent success. The fact is, third parties WANT the Wii to be dead, because it means no Nintendo games to compete with. Third parties have abused the hell outta Wii this gen, and the fact that THEY actually try to sound like the victim is laughable.


It will most likely be out this year based onNintendo's consistent history of 5 year cycles, and the fact that new technology is required, as there is nothing left to be achieved on the Wii, nothing that can surrprise or create new buzz.



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I swear, it's like EA never wants me to buy another game from them ever again.



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NYANKS said:
Galaki said:
z101 said:

EA know whats going on ... oh isn't EA the publisher who make big losses in the last years and fired over 1000 employes.


It's the American way. Top execs never make mistakes.

No, it's the way of bad business.  Apple seems to be okay.  Berkshire Hathaway and Johnson and Johnson seem to be fine.  Activision just doesn't do business well.  How in Holy Hell do you possess World of Warcraft as a money source and somehow the Activision wing is still able to put the whole company in the red?


Yeah that fact that even with WoW and CoD they can lose money is absolutely pathetic. 



theRepublic said:

I swear, it's like EA never wants me to buy another game from them ever again.


Already not buying their stuff myself.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Jumpin said:
Metallicube said:
Carl2291 said:

If we see a Wii 2 this Year Worldwide, and Nintendo discontinues the Wii, what would the chances be of the 360 or PS3 ever reaching the Wii's total and thus winning the generation?

I hope the Wii 2 releases this Year...

Keep dreamin..

First of all, a new Nintendo console is not coming this year. In fact, it is unlikely that it'll even come next year. Second, even if it did come this year, the HD consoles have 0 chance to reach Wii's sales. Boggles my mind that there are a few out there that still believe this could happen.

In response to the topic, I think it's funny that EA says third party on Wii is a difficult investment. It is only difficult because they make it that way. If you honestly can't find a way to churn up a decent success with an 85 million userbase, you'd have to figure the problem is not with the console, but YOUR company. If they actually tried to succeed on the platform, or figuring out the audience, instead of just shrugging their shoulders and throwing out terrible shovelware and ports, they might find decent success. The fact is, third parties WANT the Wii to be dead, because it means no Nintendo games to compete with. Third parties have abused the hell outta Wii this gen, and the fact that THEY actually try to sound like the victim is laughable.


It will most likely be out this year based onNintendo's consistent history of 5 year cycles, and the fact that new technology is required, as there is nothing left to be achieved on the Wii, nothing that can surrprise or create new buzz.

I still say late 2012. For one, PS2 had a 6 year life (without the PS3 out) and Wii seems to be following a similar tragetory, if not stronger. Plus, Nintendo still has another strong year left with Wii IMO, between Zelda, more motion plus games (which should be revealed at E3), and 1 or 2 more price drops. Plus, I think it'd be very unwise for Nintendo to further crowd the year with another console after the 3DS just came out.

It's not about creating new "buzz," simply games that draw a mass audience. Nintendo has drifted away from this strategy recently (besides DKC and Just Dance, the latter of which wasn't even created by Nintendo). This is why hardware sales have been dwindling. It is not because of hardware power (Wii's power was already behind even in 2006), and not necessarily because of third parties either, at least not completely. Third parties have never really supported Wii. So that means something else must have changed obviously. And that something is Nintendo drifting from the mass appeal, while creating and endorsing games like Other M and Sin and Punishment; games that a small niche of hardcore and Nintendo fans love, but appeals to little more than that.

They just need to create more games like Mario Kart Wii Play, and NSMB that draw in old and newschool gamers, as well as games like Wii Fit that push the boundaries of that a game is and draw in new audiences.