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slowmo said:
goforgold said:
 

wow you 360 fans are something else.

6 is a larger value the 5 = opinion

The irony bad grammar/spelling causes...

wut?

no seriously, f**k are you on about lol



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Kasz216 said:

Someone who is primarily PC developer likes 360 better then PS3.


Not exactly a surprise.


Heck, the only reason Valve changed thier tune is that Sony for some reason gave Valve permission to run Steam on the PS3.

360 is more of a traditional computer then the PS3.

This is Carmacks first next gen game. (right?)


Remember what it was like back when nobody knew how to program for the PS3?  Everyone perferred 360, and the 360 games ran better.

Bull...

In terms of system architecture the PS3 more closely matches the PC.

  • HDD in every system
  • Separate memory pools for the CPU/GPU
  • Off the shelf GPU
  • Main memory attached to the CPU
  • (Used to RUN Linux)


Tease.

goforgold said:
slowmo said:
goforgold said:
 

wow you 360 fans are something else.

6 is a larger value the 5 = opinion

The irony bad grammar/spelling causes...

wut?

no seriously, f**k are you on about lol

I bolded the error, you were trying to use sarcasm by posting a fact and saying it was opinion but instead you're spelling mistake means it makes no sense.  The fact you prefaced the staement with "wow you 360 fans are something else." made it all the more ironic to me.  The words epic fail spring to mind.



Some devs prefer the 360 while others prefer the PS3.

 

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Nsanity said:
snfr said:

So the PS3 version of Rage will look inferior, I'm calling it!

Anyway, nothing against his opinion. I guess many developers favour one console, and there is nothing wrong with it.
Although I think he should have given a reason why he prefers the 360...

 

This could be the reason

 

"...the only thing Sony has going for them over the 360, is the data storage on the blu-ray..."

"...the only real advantage that the PS3 has over the 360, from our point of view, is the extra space."

"Yeah, I mean that's our position that it's almost unequivocal across the board that the 360 is a better platform to develop for. When you get down into actual comparisons on the hardware performance characteristics, it's not quite an apples to apples comparison. On almost anything on the strictly graphical side, in terms of pushing vertexes and triangles on there, the 360 hardware is superior to the PS3's RSX on there."

"On the processing side it's a little bit more complicated, where the main processor on the PS3 is roughly equivalent to one of the three processors on the 360. But then you wind up saying, you have to compare two other symmetric processors on the 360 versus the eight quirky cell processors. And that comes down to one of those questions, where if you just look at the raw numbers, the cells are much more powerful. Many more flops on there, in theory you can do a lot more, but that's where you come to the difference between theory and practice. And given an infinite amount of development time on there, you can craft a program that's gonna work more efficiently on the cells there than on two additional processors on the 360. But given a finite amount of development time, it's much-much easier to get things working well on the 360 than it is on the PS3. And that's pretty much the case across the board."

"And the other major difference is the memory partitioning. Where they're both 512mb machines, but on the PS3 it's partitioned into 256mb of video and 256mb of main. And one of the biggest things that Sony does poorly for developers is their system stuff sucks up a lot more resources than it does, than Microsoft's does on the 360. So memory is much more painful on the PS3. We spend a lot more time trying to crunch down the memory for that..."

"...and we're trying to say pretty plainly that this is going to be the one thing that the PS3 version is gonna be better at, and in fact it's almost the worst sort of thing for Microsoft there because we are having to work twice as hard on the PS3 to bring it up to spec. But in the end it's going to be 60fps game, and it's going to wind up looking just like the 360, we just had to sweat lot more for it. And if it winds up getting a benefit because of the blu-ray and having the better compression on there, then it's going to wind up looking like the PS3 was the better machine, even though it really wasn't..."

well that puts it in perspective.



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slowmo said:
goforgold said:
slowmo said:
goforgold said:
 

wow you 360 fans are something else.

6 is a larger value than 5 = opinion

The irony bad grammar/spelling causes...

wut?

no seriously, f**k are you on about lol

I bolded the error, you were trying to use sarcasm by posting a fact and saying it was opinion but instead you're spelling mistake means it makes no sense.  The fact you prefaced the staement with "wow you 360 fans are something else." made it all the more ironic to me.  The words epic fail spring to mind.

how's that for irony LMAO grammar Nazi FTW!!!

I fixed my error though, better???

and yes I'm still baffled at how you guys dismiss fact as opinion



how come stuff like this actually turns into a forum topic?



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goforgold said:
slowmo said:
goforgold said:
slowmo said:
goforgold said:
 

wow you 360 fans are something else.

6 is a larger value than 5 = opinion

The irony bad grammar/spelling causes...

wut?

no seriously, f**k are you on about lol

I bolded the error, you were trying to use sarcasm by posting a fact and saying it was opinion but instead you're spelling mistake means it makes no sense.  The fact you prefaced the staement with "wow you 360 fans are something else." made it all the more ironic to me.  The words epic fail spring to mind.

how's that for irony LMAO grammar Nazi FTW!!!

I fixed my error though, better???

and yes I'm still baffled at how you guys dismiss fact as opinion


You still haven't looked up the definition of fact I see.

Wow, I made a spelling mistake posting in my lunch break! 

Cry away all you want though, you've yet to post a fact as people have pointed out and rebuked your data already.



slowmo said:
goforgold said:
slowmo said:
goforgold said:
slowmo said:
goforgold said:
 

wow you 360 fans are something else.

6 is a larger value than 5 = opinion

The irony bad grammar/spelling causes...

wut?

no seriously, f**k are you on about lol

I bolded the error, you were trying to use sarcasm by posting a fact and saying it was opinion but instead you're spelling mistake means it makes no sense.  The fact you prefaced the staement with "wow you 360 fans are something else." made it all the more ironic to me.  The words epic fail spring to mind.

how's that for irony LMAO grammar Nazi FTW!!!

I fixed my error though, better???

and yes I'm still baffled at how you guys dismiss fact as opinion


You still haven't looked up the definition of fact I see.

Wow, I made a spelling mistake posting in my lunch break! 

Cry away all you want though, you've yet to post a fact as people have pointed out and rebuked your data already.

find me one post the "rebuked" my post

and then you post the specs for the ps3 and 360 and if they are the same I'll apologize



goforgold said:
slowmo said:
goforgold said:
slowmo said:
goforgold said:
slowmo said:
goforgold said:
 

wow you 360 fans are something else.

6 is a larger value than 5 = opinion

The irony bad grammar/spelling causes...

wut?

no seriously, f**k are you on about lol

I bolded the error, you were trying to use sarcasm by posting a fact and saying it was opinion but instead you're spelling mistake means it makes no sense.  The fact you prefaced the staement with "wow you 360 fans are something else." made it all the more ironic to me.  The words epic fail spring to mind.

how's that for irony LMAO grammar Nazi FTW!!!

I fixed my error though, better???

and yes I'm still baffled at how you guys dismiss fact as opinion


You still haven't looked up the definition of fact I see.

Wow, I made a spelling mistake posting in my lunch break! 

Cry away all you want though, you've yet to post a fact as people have pointed out and rebuked your data already.

find me one post the "rebuked" my post

and then you post the specs for the ps3 and 360 and if they are the same I'll apologize

Gets popcorn, Reads and waits for more.