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badgenome said:
ssj12 said:
badgenome said:

Yeah, but you can still say "Playstation" and people think of a console. Going forward, that's what I think will change. Steam seems a pretty good indicator that even on an open platform like PC, people will gravitate towards a more closed platform-on-a-platform if it's a good one.


Its because people do not have to remember a dozen passwords and know their media is safe.

That might be a nice convenience, but I think Steam's great deals and large community has a lot more to do with it. The community is probably the biggest draw of all. I always see people bitch about paying for Live when most of the games are on PS3 or PC with free online multiplayer, but they continue to do it because that's where their friends play.

Their deals and large communities are very attractive. But Steam isn't the only platform PC has. Its the biggest, but Impulse, D2D, GoG, etc all have communities and good deals. As you say, people flock where friends and communities are. But there are people who break the typical mold and go to another platform based on opinions that one platform is superior to another.



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kowenicki said:

A Nintendo release of a brand new and bespoke SuperMario or MarioKart on Android (or equivalent) is very near I think.  Certainly in the next 5 years.

Imagine the revenue, Nintendio is already thinking this way imo.

The next gen of gaming handhelds is def the last one... very easy transition to make.


no lol, that would be insane. people who make consoles dont give some of their best games to a competitor



ssj12 said:
kitler53 said:
Mr Khan said:

Given how drastically PSPGo failed, how could Sony seriously be considering going back to that, even 8 years or so from now?


1. pspGo failed 2 years in the past while this article is talking 10ish years in the future.

2. Exhibt A: music sales.  physical sales of music dropped below 50% in 2009 in favor of digital.

3. Don't even bother with the file size argument, netflix streaming, itunes apps, xbla, psn, wiiware, OnLive all point to means of digital distribution already availible and the services are only going to get better.

4. We are already well on our way into digital distribution.  EA just critizied NPD citing 1/5 of their revenue is going to be digital this year.

so in conclusion, physical sales are obviously not going to go away over night just like CDs didn't go away over night but the market trend is clear ... we are moving to a digital distribution in all forms of media; video games included.


1. the PSPgo was more testing the waters of the market. The PSN shows that market exists, its just not big enough for full digital handheld consoles yet.

2 - 4. read my posts above. physical music will never actually die. Even vinyl records still have a fairly strong niche market that has constant resergances due to people's mentalities on digital file size.

to part 1-- i do agree it was a test but the execution was terrible.  i personally was very excited when it was first announced but the fact that not every title went digital, some that did go digital arrived late, and a large uncertainty of which games would or would not be released digitally severly turned me off.  I'm most likely going to get an NGP and if I do I won't buy a single game physically if I don't have to.

to part 2 -- i don't think that the vinyl niche market has anything to do with digital file size but yes, i do believe there will always be a market for that sort of thing.  you can still get film camera too but lets face the facts -- the size of that market is no longer significant compared to the digital camera market.



i 100% disagree with him, the day consoles and physcial media go away is the day i keep playing the games that are out and the older systems to keep my gaming ongoing. i will never buy a system that is only digital media, and i know alot of ppl that agree with me on that.



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Each console has a distinct shape, look and personality. That makes it really tempting to buy an actual box. I love things that look cool. I would hang a black gamecube around my neck if I could :P

No matter WHAT happens, if Nintendo/MS/Sony releases a console then they'll always be able to sell one to me.

 



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Be sad if that is what ends up happening. No phyiscal media for new big games? I wont buy.  I dont see it happening really though. Sure theirs plenty of people who use those services, but there are also tons of people with my stance. Also,what about those people with not internet? If they are wanting to grow the market how can they with those people?



Apparently, Nintendo won't even participate next gen.



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Physical disks might die in favour of Digital Download, but no way do home consoles die. Handhelds WILL NOT replace home consoles. 



Beuli2 said:

Apparently, Nintendo won't even participate next gen.


Thats because they went out of buisness this gen dont you remember?



cory.ok said:
kowenicki said:

A Nintendo release of a brand new and bespoke SuperMario or MarioKart on Android (or equivalent) is very near I think.  Certainly in the next 5 years.

Imagine the revenue, Nintendio is already thinking this way imo.

The next gen of gaming handhelds is def the last one... very easy transition to make.


no lol, that would be insane. people who make consoles dont give some of their best games to a competitor

Right. Nintendo is a control freak for having their own devices to develop on, and certainly would never work on another market where they'd have to share revenues with another provider



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