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I donoted the 80 pounds i had planned to spend on a new head set :/ Im just glad non of my friends have been heart :) But its still horrofic to it on the news everyday...

Im not religious but i pray for the familys in japan.



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I will donate money when I get my next pay check later this week. Can't until then.



i'll prob donate through my school...just gotta wait for them to start collecting (which should be soon)



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when i get some extra cash ill donate its cray what some of you are saying though if you dont wanna help dont post ugh!



Lostplanet22 said:
kowenicki said:

Excellent to see real practical help coming in from the UK, US, Aus, NZ and the Swiss, expert search and rescue, technical expertise etc.  They have already sent rescue teams and experts.  These countries are always the first to offer real useful help.

I really cant undertsand why people above are trying to downplay financial help.. yes it isnt as relevant when you are talking about the 3rd biggest economy on the planet... but there will be a need at a social level on the ground for financial aid.

Because it is shocking...Every month in a country like Congo atleast 40-50.000 people die... Sure plenty of killing but also plenty of being sick, not having food, not having water, children soldiers who become a soldier to atleast have food every day.... The last ten years the number of casualties is between 6-8 million..Atleast 50% could have been saved if their was enough funds for the organizations over their..

Where is Darth's post on my wall about donating for Congo?

To make it even worse last week Donkey kong avater dude made a thread asking who donates money,  less than then people said they donate money  (that is when I last read it).

Now Holy Japan has an earthquake  and their will be probably maximum 10.000 casualties..The same amount of casualties that Congo has every week for more than 10 years everyone starts donating for me people are just saying;..

A japanase persons life >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  African persons life..

You mean me? I created a thread about sponsoring children in third world countries, I just started sponsoring and was seeing if others were doing so. Is that the thread your talking about? and your right it didn't appear that many VGChartz members were sponsoring I expected at least a few.

Now when I have money I do donate to causes around the globe. At the moment I am unemployed sponsoring a kid and deploying on a missions trip to help people in the slums of Thailand. That costs alot of money. But I will get around to donating for Japan as I did Haiti and hopefully I can go with a humanitarian team ASAP.

Now I don't think the majority of the users here are saying Japanese people are more important than africans. Do you know how many billions get donated to Africa? I don't however I do know that my church sends teams to Africa every year and donates a ton to Ethiopia , Kenya, Uganda, Burundi, Ghana and South Africa those are just the countries I know my church supports.

The idea that people are only supporting Japan is ludacris. Why is it gaining so much more attention on VGChartz then other countries do? Its sorta obvious you'd have to be blind not to put the two together. Japan is the home of gaming so to speak. Nintendo , Sony , Sega , Square , Capcom and so fourth are all in Japan. Most of our products come from Japan.

So no shit Japan is going to get more attention on a video game forum.

Also their were similiar threads with Haiti and if I recall correctly people created threads to give verbal support to the victims in ChristChurch where Rath lives.

Fact of the matter is VGChartz users do donate to other causes, many probably donate and don't talk about it. While in cases like Haiti people on VGChartz donated.

Also to talk directly about the Congo. Giving aid in the Congo and other unstable African countries is very difficult. Rebels and even Government forces sieze aid and horde it to themselves. These child soldiers grab what they can and prevent the aid from reaching the people. Aid workers often get killed, kidnapped or persecuted.The only way for the Congo and places like Somalia to get aid is through the United Nation's but even the UN can't deliver aid half the time because their troops are peace keepers and when Al-Shabab or rebels from the Congo want that aid they cease it.

So sending aid to unstable countries, your probably not going to help the people who need the help. Your food, tents and water purification systems will be used by the warring parties to feed and clothe their armies. Then using those armies they persecute their people.

Africa is a very hard place to help due to instability but as I said above that doesn't stop many from trying. Their are people right now in Africa doing their best to help the populations.



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dahuman said:

I don't really donate to these things since there are like, 7 billion people in the world atm, every person I save is going to potentially fuck me over in the long run when it comes to food resources in the future. Now's not really the right time to be saving lives, my own included. I'd totally donate if the world population is about 1/50th of the current size, though even that number is questionable tbh.

Well, I personally believe the world is very overpopulated as well, but in my opinion the context of a catastrophe isn't the right place to discuss that and my personal method of choice to decrease the population size would be a rigorous birth control and not letting people die, which frankly doesn't seem all that "humane" (to refer to your nick).

Onibaka said:


Our world is not overpopulated in any way...We have technologies and conditions to give water and food to more than 15billion EASILY, TODAY.

The problem is our society.

If USA invested 1/10 of what spends in war on technologies to increase food productivity, and if poor countries instead of exporting all their food, at least give their population a little, there would not be hungry.

with the development of technology, I believe that our world would support more than 50 billion people.

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back on topic:

One thing that i will never do in my life is donate to japan. No matter what country you are, if you want to find people to help that much, just walk to the corner on the street.

I can't believe how ignorant and naive this comment is..

Sure if the get rid of all those pesky wild animals and cultivate every landscape (i.e. make "use" of those "useless" forests and swamps and so on), that may be possible as long as we are in a climate optimum.

But the climate _will_ change, there never was a point in earth history where climate was constant and right now we are in a short warm period (former warm periods were 10-15k years on average) within an ice house climate (ice ages on average were 70-100k y long within the last 2.6m years).

Now if the climate changes (to a new ice age or to a hot house climate) we will have far less agricultural production, so if we had 15 or 50 (lol) billion people living on earth in that situation what do you think will happen? I can tell you.. unbelievable hunger, huge wars for water resources/fertile land, billions of people will die within some years/decades and the wars will destroy a lot of the enviroment.

It's absolutely not in humankinds best interest to use/populate earth to it's maximum capacity, we need to find a sensible max of human population, which I'm afraid already is exceeded.

 

By the way, "poor" countries don't produce enough food to feed their people (nearly all of them have to import food from the west, ofc especially during droughts and so on), they produce a lot of "cash crops", because in the rich countries we want chocolade, peanuts, cotton, coffee,... (and we want all that for very cheap prices). These plants don't qualify as "food", as they use a hell of lot of water for a minimal (consumable) energy output. But to clean/desalinate water we need to invest much (electric) energy as well.

Governments in poor countries don't even have the choice to tell their people to do otherwise, as there is a lot of pressure to go on doing so/produce even more export orientated agricultural products to pay off their depts (which we made sure they can't).

I complained about "dahuman" 's nick, but "baka" in yours might be justifiable.



Lafiel said:

dahuman said:

I don't really donate to these things since there are like, 7 billion people in the world atm, every person I save is going to potentially fuck me over in the long run when it comes to food resources in the future. Now's not really the right time to be saving lives, my own included. I'd totally donate if the world population is about 1/50th of the current size, though even that number is questionable tbh.

Well, I personally believe the world is very overpopulated as well, but in my opinion the context of a catastrophe isn't the right place to discuss that and my personal method of choice to decrease the population size would be a rigorous birth control and not letting people die, which frankly doesn't seem all that "humane" (to refer to your nick).

Onibaka said:


Our world is not overpopulated in any way...We have technologies and conditions to give water and food to more than 15billion EASILY, TODAY.

The problem is our society.

If USA invested 1/10 of what spends in war on technologies to increase food productivity, and if poor countries instead of exporting all their food, at least give their population a little, there would not be hungry.

with the development of technology, I believe that our world would support more than 50 billion people.

----------------

back on topic:

One thing that i will never do in my life is donate to japan. No matter what country you are, if you want to find people to help that much, just walk to the corner on the street.

I can't believe how ignorant and naive this comment is..

Sure if the get rid of all those pesky wild animals and cultivate every landscape (i.e. make "use" of those "useless" forrests and swamps and so on), that may be possible as long as we are in a climate optimum.

But the climate _will_ change, there never was a point in earth history where climate was constant and right now we are in a short warm period (former warm periods were 10-15k years on average) within an ice house climate (ice ages on average were 70-100k y long within the last 2.6m years).

Now if the climate changes (to a new ice age or to a hot house climate) we will have far less agricultaral production, so if we had 15 or 50 (lol) billion people living on earth in that situation what do you think will happen? I can tell you.. unbelievable hunger, huge wars for water resources/fertile land, billions of people will die within some years/decades and the wars will destroy a lot of the enviroment.

It's absolutely not in humankinds best interest to use/populate earth to it's maximum capacity, we need to find a sensible max of human population, which I'm afraid already is exceeded.

 

By the way, "poor" countries don't produce enough food to feed their people (nearly all of them have to import food from the west, ofc especially during droughts and so on), they produce a lot of "cash crops", because in the rich countries we want chocolade, peanuts, caffee,... (and we want all that for very cheap prices). These plants don't qualify as "food", as they use a hell of lot of water for a minimal (consumable) energy output. But to clean/desalinate water we need to invest much (electric) energy as well.

Governments in poor countries don't even have the choice to tell their people to do otherwise, as there is a lot of pressure to go on doing so/produce even more export orientated agricultural products to pay off their depts (which we made sure they can't).

I complained about "dahuman" 's nick, but "baka" in yours might be justifiable.

My pastor referenced a study last year that if you took all the money North American's spend on their pets alone you could feed all of Africa, then the study included all of the make up industry and with that you could feed all of South America for a year. He then said if you took all of the G20's Make up and pet costs you could feed the entire world.

Now I don't know the study myself as he referenced it in church. He also referenced another study that all the food wasted in the G20 could feed the whole world twice over. Again I don't know the studies off by heart. Now I don't think that the money could feed the world, honestly if you started buying that much food demand would out pace supply thus driving the prices higher.

However the amount of food the G20 waste, looking at people just here in Canada we waste a ton of food. My cousin worked for a Little Cesars Pizza. He said they threw out over 20 pizza's a day. When I did security at my mall the resteraunts through whole garbage bins of food out every day. The produce stores threw out even more as the food went bad.

Now if the Governments of the world rashioned their food, then feeding 15-billion doesn't sound too far off. If every poor country stopped exporting food and the G20 countries with more then enough food started exporting to the poorer countries, then I have no doubt right now we could feed 15-billion people.

But thats when we run into problems. The G20 countries are not about to take a dive in their living standards. Were not about to start rashioning are food, we aren't about to give up our pets, women will not give up their make up. The G20 countries like the cushy lifestyle they live in and lets face it they aren't about to give that up.

Also water, I know a few years ago in the Province Newspaper they said that a facility could be built on the ocean and supply the whole province with clean drinking water for a couple billion dollars.

So if our countries all got together and pooled are wealth and resources to help the developing world. Yes we could sustain 15-billion. Now as you said weather may not permit that for long but right now today we could most definatly support the whole worlds population and much more.



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Its digusting how some people are downplaying the tragedy and moaning about people donating money as other countries have been suffering more.

Yes I can appreciate that the casualties in Japan due to earthquake may not be as much as 1 weeks worth of casualties in another country...so because of that we shouldn't help Japan? Surely any help given to anyone is a good thing? This doesn't suddenly mean we think Japanese >>>> African .

Regardless of who needs more help, this is really not the time to be fighting about whether help should be given or not, if you don't want to give help, 1 click on your PC will take you outta this thread, 2 more clicks will let you make a thread for donating to Congo or other countries. Do that, stop complaining in here.

Do not insult peoples willingness of people to help and the tragedy that has taken place in Japan by saying other places need more help, this is really not the time or place to be doing that.



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I created this thread for people interested in donating, not for you to debate overpopulation/decreasing population, who's more entitled for donation money, and so on. Take it to your walls, please.



darthdevidem01 said:

1)Its digusting how some people are downplaying the tragedy and moaning about people donating money as other countries have been suffering more.

2)Yes I can appreciate that the casualties in Japan due to earthquake may not be as much as 1 weeks worth of casualties in another country...so because of that we shouldn't help Japan? Surely any help given to anyone is a good thing? This doesn't suddenly mean we think Japanese >>>> African .

3)Regardless of who needs more help, this is really not the time to be fighting about whether help should be given or not, if you don't want to give help, 1 click on your PC will take you outta this thread, 2 more clicks will let you make a thread for donating to Congo or other countries. Do that, stop complaining in here.

4)Do not insult peoples willingness of people to help and the tragedy that has taken place in Japan by saying other places need more help, this is really not the time or place to be doing that.

1)Or can turn it around, it is disgusting how people see this a huge disaster (it is) and give money while the last thing they need is financial help while probably ten times that people die every week who are in fact in need of desperate fundings;.

2) If you really cared about them you would have made every week a thread like this...It is that simple;.
    But you didn't...Why because you simple care more about Japan so don't talk yourself good

3)&4) Just hope for you that ever something happens in your region people will not say....'help UK why? I don't like that country'..