Since the thread limits it to these 2 games as being the best ever, OOT over Final Fantasy 7 any day. There isn't even a discussion IMO. One game had great graphics for the time and fast paced gameplay, the other one had turned based random encounter shit with hideous ass graphics and terrible controls.

here it is.  one of the biggest rivalries for the greatest game of all time.  many people say that whichever game you play first, you generally like more and i think thats the truth.  ff7 was actually one of the first games i ever played and is still my favorite and i think its near perfect in nearly every way for its time.  now i do not discredit anything from ocarina of time, it is pretty damn good too, probably in my top 5, but theres just something lacking in it that just makes me like ff7 better.  i think perhaps the dialogue is the biggest thing.  ocarina of time has a pretty g-rated dialogue and it makes the game generally feel less serious as far as the world being in grave danger goes.  also, the songs in ff7 give me goose bumps.  however, every one just loves that tune when you find a new item or triforce piece in ocarina of time.  ff7 has sold 9.72 million and ocarina of time has sold 7.60 million according to vgchartz, but for me, the hardly does either game justice.  so what do you think is better?

EDIT: can someone tell me how to make a poll

You're crazy and there's a certain type of male airflow machine that your comment blatantly screams. FFVII is nearly unplayable by modern standard, while gameplay has barely evolved past what OoT did thirteen years ago.

In the FF series, VII is very low on my rankings. I consider IV, V, VI, IX, X, and XII all to be very easily better games. And one could easily make the argument that every other non-MMO game in the series is more enjoyable, too. Both MMOs, I consider pretty rough, though. And similar opinions are extremely common amongst players of the series as well.

So why was the game 2nd in the vgchartz top 100 games? That's your opinion, and I also don't agree that FF7 is the best in the series, but... I liked it way more than OoT...

Meanwhile, OoT is still revered as either the best game of all time or, at the very worst, one of the top 5 best games of all time, by both the majority of gamers AND aggregate ratings websites.

Toss in Master Quest and Ocarina of Time 3D, and there's absolutely no question about it. Master Quest because it offers an incredible extra degree of replayability that you can almost never find in games like that. OoT3D because it's a very lightly updated version of the game, which proves that OoT has aged fantastically. FFVII could NEVER be re-released as a full game like that without getting a serious makeover. OoT3D only got a minor touchup.

Whatever you say makes no sense :)

1 - The gameplay for OoT has aged, and not that well, FF7's gamepkay is still as solid as it was back than
2 - FF7's soundtrack is still considered one of the best soundtracks in gaming history, and no one will consider OoT's soundtrack even close.
3 - Both games look ugly
4 - OoT3D didn't get a graphic overhaul becase Nintendo are lazy and because it's played on a tiny screen, how good do you think it will look on a 42" TV? What reason is there for not releasing the game for the PSP without a graphic overhall? None, because it already was released and bought online over million times.

No, this isn't even a fair debate. It's OoT all the way.