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AussieGecko on 27 February 2011
oniyide said:

@aussiegecko   there bypassing the Kinect games because they think they are not core games and dont really give a damn about them. Just like the core Wii gamers dont give a damn about shovelware, same thing here. As far as they're concerned they might as well not exist. They could be wrong, maybe the Kinect games wont be shovelware, but time will tell. I cant wait to find out


Ill retreat using Kinect games as core games, although I disagree as they are system sellers. 

Can someone explain what "Core Games" are to me... Coz to me it sounds like system sellers.



 

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zarx on 27 February 2011
AussieGecko said:
zarx said:


but his post was misleading it implied there were a bunch of teams making core games we know nothing about which is false, see my reply.

also I forgot to mention in my last post that Rare isn't matching Insomniac's output because they only have ~200 employees vs  Insomniac's 300 plus, in aditin to the fact that a chunk of their resorces are dedicated to the Dashbord and Avatar items. 

oh and also I forgot to address the win phone 7 development they actually set up a studio just for that and they have been rather prolific since they were set up in 2010 so far they have released

No not 100's and 1000's but they are coming in immense numbers. There is always seeming to be new ones when I look.

You again with your lists.

There was a lot of maybes in your list so until you start providing sources for your lists, I will ignore them  completely and stick with Squilliams list as he seems to admit that there are few he doesnt know about.

One of your items you said most probably doing dlc... you dont know though do you. DLC is not a game, it is an add on, it wouldnt take a whole teams resources to do a dlc. Keep dreaming.


wait he doesn't have any sorces ether, my sources are each studios web site, wikipedia and varius news stories. I admit I don't know for certan what certain teams are working on but from the information available I have said what they are probably doing.

Turn 10s other team is working on but DLC/multiplayer seems likely, it's not uncommon and hell Crysis has a intire seperate studio working on Crysis multiplayer so did Dead Space 2, having multiple teams working on the same game is not uncommon.

So in closing as there a are a few unconfirmed things they are working on most teams are accounted for. http://www.joystiq.com/2010/06/29/project-milo-team-about-50-strong-product-not-coming-this-h/ there is Lionhead's seccond team accounted for. http://www.infendo.com/rare-avatar-development-started-before-mii/ there you go proof that Rare work on avatars, They also developed Perfect Dark and past XBLA titles at the same time as their retail releases so logic would sujest a seperate team worked on them, and finally http://www.kinectaku.com/news/2010/12/interviews_rare_studios_kinect_sports they are working on more Kinect games so that's their 3 teams accounted for no core retail game coming from them. 343 Are working on a Halo game we know that and they are probably working on the CE evolved remake with Saber interactive http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/xbox-360/news/halo-combat-evolved-remake-rumored-for-this-holiday/a-2011020410445223087/g-20060321132945404017/c-1#10374492282515864659611786960509687. As for Firebird there is little info on theam so anyone's guess is as good as mine but from what I have been able to gather they are more of an animation studio... So they probably are not developing a game at all... http://www.firebirdstudios.net/#/aboutus/4540269543 http://www.caligari.com/company/missionnew.asp?Cate=About&Subcate=Company&SubV=Mission

so there are my sources happy?



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oniyide on 02 March 2011

@aussiegecko  lets be real here only a handful of those Kinect games are system sellers, the one that came with it, Kinectimals, that dance game adn I cant think of any others. If you make another dance game that is worst, i would say that those games are the shovelware. A core game to me is just a traditinal game. IMO its just a game that does not fcous heavily on the whole motion thing, my point still stands though, there a 360 gamers who will not and do not care about Kinect so what are they to do?



homer on 02 March 2011
AussieGecko said:

 DLC is not a game, it is an add on, it wouldnt take a whole teams resources to do a dlc.

While I agree with the last segment of this sentence, dlc stands for downloadable content, not just "add-ons." DLC can mean games like castle crashers, wipeout hd, and other psn/xbla titles.



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NotStan on 02 March 2011
homer said:
AussieGecko said:

 DLC is not a game, it is an add on, it wouldnt take a whole teams resources to do a dlc.

While I agree with the last segment of this sentence, dlc stands for downloadable content, not just "add-ons." DLC can mean games like castle crashers, wipeout hd, and other psn/xbla titles.

I wouldn't go that far personally, I think DLC is nowhere as hard as it does not need to built from ground up, in most cases, they effectively use the already existing resources and add a few tweaks to it, no need to build a new engine for ground up, the story is already effectively there. Just throwing aload of ideas in the pot and short development, that's what I think happens anyway, CC was a game on it's own, tbh I would have brought it even if it was retail :L



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Vetteman94 on 03 March 2011

Am I the only one still holding out for the Mechwarrior Reboot?  And is that game still coming or is it a wet dream for me.



S.T.A.G.E. on 03 March 2011
Vetteman94 said:

Am I the only one still holding out for the Mechwarrior Reboot?  And is that game still coming or is it a wet dream for me.


I'll get it on PC. :)



BenVTrigger on 03 March 2011
Vetteman94 said:

Am I the only one still holding out for the Mechwarrior Reboot?  And is that game still coming or is it a wet dream for me.


Wow I totally forgot about that!  I remember like 2 years ago they released a gameplay trailer for it and it looked unbelievable!  I wonder what ever happened to it.  I sure hope it didn't get canned cause that game looked hella promising.

And just for the record, all you guys who are wondering what Turn 10's other team is working on its been long rumored they are developing the next Project Gotham Racing game which would be another good exclusive if it ends up being true.  Though not sure if MS really needs two exclusive racers in direct competition with each other.



Vetteman94 on 03 March 2011
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Vetteman94 said:

Am I the only one still holding out for the Mechwarrior Reboot?  And is that game still coming or is it a wet dream for me.

I'll get it on PC. :)

I will probably as well since I just built a pretty sweet PC, but I was going to also get it on 360, just to see how they handle the controls this time around. Not that they were the problem in the MechAssault games.



Vetteman94 on 03 March 2011
BenVTrigger said:
Vetteman94 said:

Am I the only one still holding out for the Mechwarrior Reboot?  And is that game still coming or is it a wet dream for me.


Wow I totally forgot about that!  I remember like 2 years ago they released a gameplay trailer for it and it looked unbelievable!  I wonder what ever happened to it.  I sure hope it didn't get canned cause that game looked hella promising.

And just for the record, all you guys who are wondering what Turn 10's other team is working on its been long rumored they are developing the next Project Gotham Racing game which would be another good exclusive if it ends up being true.  Though not sure if MS really needs two exclusive racers in direct competition with each other.

Supposedly Pirranha Games and Smith & Tinker are working on it.  But no updates or news on it since the trailer and the legal issues with that trailer.  I have gotten to the point that if I dont hear anything at this E3 about it I will give up hope and forget this game exists.