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buglebum on 23 February 2011

Still waiting for XenWagram to fully support this most fantastic of ideas. When this news hits the mainstream, I'm gleefully looking forward to Sony getting their just desserts and a PR meltdown ensuing :)

This is simply NOT ON!


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Sony advocates hanging for anyone caught with homebrew on their PS3.



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goforgold on 23 February 2011
Zkuq said:
goforgold said:

noooooooo you'll just ONLY be able to use a product the way it was meant to be used. So when Sony releases a product for a certain purpose it will only ever be used for that purpose. SO terrible XD

Do you really believe that bullshit? That you're not allowed to do what you want to do with the product you own?

yes, you are NOT suppose to do whatever you want with a product, however, that isn't why Sony is suing him (this is the part where you completely ignore everything I'm about to say) because Sony doesn't care, Sony could careless that you mod your system, what they do care about is releasing that mod to everyone else knowing full well what could happen. See intellectual property is something you "mah consumer rightz" people have to get familiar with. It's not up to you the consumer to decide what the hell a product should or should not do, you know who does however....the people who made the damn thing, and yes they have the RIGHT to do that, and if your mad a product is able to do what you want the the only RIGHT you have is to buy another product or better MAKE YOUR OWN!!!!!!!



antfromtashkent on 23 February 2011
Zkuq said:
geddesmond2 said:

Yeah I know, yet when that product breaks, whos the first people we run to

That's because they can't sell a defective product. If you bought a game from someone, thinking it works, and it turned out not to be working, wouldn't you feel cheated?

I feel cheated when someone deleted all of my info in COD...



M.U.G.E.N on 23 February 2011

Good, just in time for NGP and ps3 price cut :)



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dsister on 23 February 2011

Great idea!

Go after the people that need to be gotten. Leave the homebrewers alone :)



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kitler53 on 23 February 2011
Zkuq said:
goforgold said:

noooooooo you'll just ONLY be able to use a product the way it was meant to be used. So when Sony releases a product for a certain purpose it will only ever be used for that purpose. SO terrible XD

Do you really believe that bullshit? That you're not allowed to do what you want to do with the product you own?

i would say the difference is i feel like i own my ps3 but i don't own the firmware.  if sony said i couldn't bedazzle me ps3's case i would be pretty pissed.   

..but the firmware these hackers are modifying -- that isn't part of the purchase price.

sony let us use that software (and are also generous enough to give me new additions to the service) for free and in exchange i signed a user agreement that i would not modify the code or by-pass their security measures.

think of it like this -- i have windows on my computer but the couple of bucks i payed for that software license doesn't make me the owner of the windows platform with right to modify and distribute the software as i please...that was not part of the purchase price.



MrBubbles on 23 February 2011
geddesmond2 said:
MrBubbles said:

well at least they appear to be targeting the proper people this time, instead of people who only wish to use their own products in a legal manner of their choosing.  its not any of sonys business if people want to have sexual relations with their systems in the privacy of their own homes(providing they arent doing it via web cam during a game so everyone else has to see ;) ).


True that. I mean if I take the keys to your car and give it to some kids to take for a joyride, I'm not guilty in that situation whatsoever


actually its like giving people keys to their own cars...that they already own...because they bought them...with money...that they earned...



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dsister on 23 February 2011
kitler53 said:

sony let us use that software (and are also generous enough to give me new additions to the service) for free and in exchange i signed a user agreement that i would not modify the code or by-pass their security measures.


But see. Some people didn't actually agree to the EULA and instead of being blocked out of the console's features(read as playing games) they should have the choice to go to another provider. Which is exactly what Geohot and company are offering



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Zkuq on 23 February 2011
goforgold said:

yes, you are NOT suppose to do whatever you want with a product, however, that isn't why Sony is suing him (this is the part where you completely ignore everything I'm about to say) because Sony doesn't care, Sony could careless that you mod your system, what they do care about is releasing that mod to everyone else knowing full well what could happen. See intellectual property is something you "mah consumer rightz" people have to get familiar with. It's not up to you the consumer to decide what the hell a product should or should not do, you know who does however....the people who made the damn thing, and yes they have the RIGHT to do that, and if your mad a product is able to do what you want the the only RIGHT you have is to buy another product or better MAKE YOUR OWN!!!!!!!

I was just about to put this in a way that would certainly get me banned: you are so wrong about this. You've really bought all that corporate propaganda they've been feeding you. Guns aren't illegal because they can be used for crimes, and the same should go for software. If you use it for illegal purposes then that's a problem but until then, there's no problem: innocent until proven otherwise. It sucks, but no one seems to care about things like consumer rights of freedom of speech these days (and I'm not trying to say they're the same thing or necessarily even connected - I'm just saying that's two things no one seems to care about anymore).

geddesmond2 said:

Cheated out of money like say how Sony will be cheated out of money if hackers get there way with homebrew that runs pirated games??Oh what so because Sonys a bg corporation that employs thousands off people they don't have any rights??

Two wrongs doesn't necessarily make a right. In fact, innocent until proven otherwise and yet here Sony is treating everyone like a criminal.

Also, I'm perfectly fine with Sony banning custom firmware users from using PSN.



geddesmond2 on 23 February 2011
Zkuq said:
goforgold said:

yes, you are NOT suppose to do whatever you want with a product, however, that isn't why Sony is suing him (this is the part where you completely ignore everything I'm about to say) because Sony doesn't care, Sony could careless that you mod your system, what they do care about is releasing that mod to everyone else knowing full well what could happen. See intellectual property is something you "mah consumer rightz" people have to get familiar with. It's not up to you the consumer to decide what the hell a product should or should not do, you know who does however....the people who made the damn thing, and yes they have the RIGHT to do that, and if your mad a product is able to do what you want the the only RIGHT you have is to buy another product or better MAKE YOUR OWN!!!!!!!

I was just about to put this in a way that would certainly get me banned: you are so wrong about this. You've really bought all that corporate propaganda they've been feeding you. Guns aren't illegal because they can be used for crimes, and the same should go for software. If you use it for illegal purposes then that's a problem but until then, there's no problem: innocent until proven otherwise. It sucks, but no one seems to care about things like consumer rights of freedom of speech these days (and I'm not trying to say they're the same thing or necessarily even connected - I'm just saying that's two things no one seems to care about anymore).

geddesmond2 said:

Cheated out of money like say how Sony will be cheated out of money if hackers get there way with homebrew that runs pirated games??Oh what so because Sonys a bg corporation that employs thousands off people they don't have any rights??

Two wrongs doesn't necessarily make a right. In fact, innocent until proven otherwise and yet here Sony is treating everyone like a criminal.

Also, I'm perfectly fine with Sony banning custom firmware users from using PSN.


Then why do you back the people who are trying to find ways back onto PSN. People who even said they are willing to  get legitimat people banned if they find a way to use there consol IDs.