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This thread sums up my beliefs pretty well.




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Qays said:

This generation has produced the overall best crop of games ever. Period.

So great you can't even name one game.  Awe inspiring these games are.

 

You know it, I know it, the developers know it, not even half of the people that buy todays games will finish them or go back to play them.  Verses I can still go outside and find Daytona USA in an arcade or cinema or Bar.

In fact, fuck this generation I'm gonna play some more Daytona. 



a lot of "hardcore" games this gen just arent made to be replayed. i mean, how many times have people replayed the big, hardcore games of this gen, let alone finished them? when games are more like movies, the magic from the first play through is lost, unlike older games where you can play them over and over because the magic was in the level design, the platforming, the running, the interaction with enemies, etc.



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routsounmanman said:

I disagree; then I see FFXIII heralded as a "great FF game". Then I agree.


haha, you posted my thoughts exactly.



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amp316 said:

I get your point and agree with it.  A huge pile of games are labeled hardcore are anything but.  They include more of the three Bs (blood, breasts, and beasts) and less gameplay.  500 cutscenes artificially lengthen a miniscule product.  Then they add an online portion to the game where you play the same 5 levels over and over and call that additional content. 

No thanks.  I'll stick to my all gameplay games like Donkey Kong Country Returns. 

That's not true at all. Your talking from the perspective of an exclusively Wii gamer, which you may or may not be, but it's a trend I've noticed when fans of Nintendo rant against the industry annd make silly ignorant statements like the one you just made. Halo: Reach, Bayonetta, Vanquish, Little Big Planet, Gears of War, Assassins Creed, Demon's Souls, Dead Space, Super Meat Boy, Mass Effect and Red Dead Redemption  are all fairly popular games that take the approach of content, replayability and gameplay over things like custscenes, boobs and blood. Custscenes are rarely used these days and when they are used, it's only to keep up the pacing and progress the story.

Your views of online, gore and  cutscenes in games today are similar to a crazy persons view of how excessive repition, motion controls and easy gameplay are exclusive to the Wii.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

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Dinomax said:
Qays said:

This generation has produced the overall best crop of games ever. Period.

So great you can't even name one game.  Awe inspiring these games are.

 

You know it, I know it, the developers know it, not even half of the people that buy todays games will finish them or go back to play them.  Verses I can still go outside and find Daytona USA in an arcade or cinema or Bar.

In fact, fuck this generation I'm gonna play some more Daytona. 

Halo 3, Halo: Reach, Bayonetta, Little Big Planet, Assassins Creed 2, Mass Effect, Red Dead Redemption, The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, Vanquish, Street Fighter 4, Uncharted 2, Fable 2, Resistance: Fall of Man, Motorstorm: Pacific Rift, Dragon Age: Origins, Just Cause 2, Bioshock, Killzone 2, Valkyria Chonicles, Demon's Souls, Gran Turismo 5, Forza 3 and I can on and on, listing great games from this generation is a breeze. Listing games that will be remembered forever is just as easy and listing games with fantastic amounts of content and replayabilty is like a walk in a park.

If your still playing Daytona, then that's just because you've chosen to ignore the many amazing games of this generation and you've obviously picked a sterile, old and poorly designed racing game over newer ones that have surpassed it in every single way.

I'll once again say that similar threads have gone over this topic a million times and they are always just a breeding ground for Nintendo fans and fans of Japanese games, who also apparently ignore Japanese games.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

Doobie_wop said:
amp316 said:

I get your point and agree with it.  A huge pile of games are labeled hardcore are anything but.  They include more of the three Bs (blood, breasts, and beasts) and less gameplay.  500 cutscenes artificially lengthen a miniscule product.  Then they add an online portion to the game where you play the same 5 levels over and over and call that additional content. 

No thanks.  I'll stick to my all gameplay games like Donkey Kong Country Returns. 

That's not true at all. Your talking from the perspective of an exclusively Wii gamer, which you may or may not be, but it's a trend I've noticed when fans of Nintendo rant against the industry annd make silly ignorant statements like the one you just made. Halo: Reach, Bayonetta, Vanquish, Little Big Planet, Gears of War, Assassins Creed, Demon's Souls, Dead Space, Super Meat Boy, Mass Effect and Red Dead Redemption  are all fairly popular games that take the approach of content, replayability and gameplay over things like custscenes, boobs and blood. Custscenes are rarely used these days and when they are used, it's only to keep up the pacing and progress the story.

Your views of online, gore and  cutscenes in games today are similar to a crazy persons view of how excessive repition, motion controls and easy gameplay are exclusive to the Wii.

I am a Wii gamer, but that has nothing to do with my points.  I never once took a stab at any of the games that you listed so I don't know why you're being so defensive.  You have to admit though that there are a lot of games that take the approach that I brought up.  Heck, a Nintendo game did to some level.  It was called Metroid: Other M.  There seemed to be more cutscenes than gameplay and Samus was made out to be eye candy more than ever.  Guess what?  I didn't like that game.  My view wasn't attacking any console, but a style of game.

My views of online, gore , and cutscenes are valid.  Several games rely on online to make up for the fact that their game is really small (I'm looking at you CoD), certain games play up the gore and run commercials about your mom not liking them, and don't even get me started on how many games market themselves as cinematic experiences.  I might be crazy, but I'm crazy like a fox.

Oh, I guess I did attack Dead Space now, didn't I?  :p 



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Dinomax said:
Qays said:

This generation has produced the overall best crop of games ever. Period.

So great you can't even name one game.  Awe inspiring these games are.

 

You know it, I know it, the developers know it, not even half of the people that buy todays games will finish them or go back to play them.  Verses I can still go outside and find Daytona USA in an arcade or cinema or Bar.

In fact, fuck this generation I'm gonna play some more Daytona. 

This has been true of all generations and all games since the medium was born.



amp316 said:
Doobie_wop said:
amp316 said:

I get your point and agree with it.  A huge pile of games are labeled hardcore are anything but.  They include more of the three Bs (blood, breasts, and beasts) and less gameplay.  500 cutscenes artificially lengthen a miniscule product.  Then they add an online portion to the game where you play the same 5 levels over and over and call that additional content. 

No thanks.  I'll stick to my all gameplay games like Donkey Kong Country Returns. 

That's not true at all. Your talking from the perspective of an exclusively Wii gamer, which you may or may not be, but it's a trend I've noticed when fans of Nintendo rant against the industry annd make silly ignorant statements like the one you just made. Halo: Reach, Bayonetta, Vanquish, Little Big Planet, Gears of War, Assassins Creed, Demon's Souls, Dead Space, Super Meat Boy, Mass Effect and Red Dead Redemption  are all fairly popular games that take the approach of content, replayability and gameplay over things like custscenes, boobs and blood. Custscenes are rarely used these days and when they are used, it's only to keep up the pacing and progress the story.

Your views of online, gore and  cutscenes in games today are similar to a crazy persons view of how excessive repition, motion controls and easy gameplay are exclusive to the Wii.

I am a Wii gamer, but that has nothing to do with my points.  I never once took a stab at any of the games that you listed so I don't know why you're being so defensive.  You have to admit though that there are a lot of games that take the approach that I brought up.  Heck, a Nintendo game did to some level.  It was called Metroid: Other M.  There seemed to be more cutscenes than gameplay and Samus was made out to be eye candy more than ever.  Guess what?  I didn't like that game.  My view wasn't attacking any console, but a style of game.

My views of online, gore , and cutscenes are valid.  Several games rely on online to make up for the fact that their game is really small (I'm looking at you CoD), certain games play up the gore and run commercials about your mom not liking them, and don't even get me started on how many games market themselves as cinematic experiences.  I might be crazy, but I'm crazy like a fox.

Oh, I guess I did attack Dead Space now, didn't I?  :p 

Bro, shhh!! The Skyrim trailer just released and I'm watching it for the 17th time. I concede to whatever you said and hope that something something.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

Doobie_wop said:
amp316 said:
Doobie_wop said:
amp316 said:

I get your point and agree with it.  A huge pile of games are labeled hardcore are anything but.  They include more of the three Bs (blood, breasts, and beasts) and less gameplay.  500 cutscenes artificially lengthen a miniscule product.  Then they add an online portion to the game where you play the same 5 levels over and over and call that additional content. 

No thanks.  I'll stick to my all gameplay games like Donkey Kong Country Returns. 

That's not true at all. Your talking from the perspective of an exclusively Wii gamer, which you may or may not be, but it's a trend I've noticed when fans of Nintendo rant against the industry annd make silly ignorant statements like the one you just made. Halo: Reach, Bayonetta, Vanquish, Little Big Planet, Gears of War, Assassins Creed, Demon's Souls, Dead Space, Super Meat Boy, Mass Effect and Red Dead Redemption  are all fairly popular games that take the approach of content, replayability and gameplay over things like custscenes, boobs and blood. Custscenes are rarely used these days and when they are used, it's only to keep up the pacing and progress the story.

Your views of online, gore and  cutscenes in games today are similar to a crazy persons view of how excessive repition, motion controls and easy gameplay are exclusive to the Wii.

I am a Wii gamer, but that has nothing to do with my points.  I never once took a stab at any of the games that you listed so I don't know why you're being so defensive.  You have to admit though that there are a lot of games that take the approach that I brought up.  Heck, a Nintendo game did to some level.  It was called Metroid: Other M.  There seemed to be more cutscenes than gameplay and Samus was made out to be eye candy more than ever.  Guess what?  I didn't like that game.  My view wasn't attacking any console, but a style of game.

My views of online, gore , and cutscenes are valid.  Several games rely on online to make up for the fact that their game is really small (I'm looking at you CoD), certain games play up the gore and run commercials about your mom not liking them, and don't even get me started on how many games market themselves as cinematic experiences.  I might be crazy, but I'm crazy like a fox.

Oh, I guess I did attack Dead Space now, didn't I?  :p 

Bro, shhh!! The Skyrim trailer just released and I'm watching it for the 17th time. I concede to whatever you said and hope that something something.

It's getting easier and easier to win an argument around here.



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