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Xbbjf9s said:
Immortal said:

xD, the same things keep on being repeated in this thread. It's hillarious.

I can't believe how many ridiculous analogies people draw for this, though. Hacking is not the same as murder. Not as long as it's done without a sword, anyway.

not just this thread...all of the ps3 hacked related threads. I can't wait for this to be over.

whats sad is that people keep bringing up huge hypotheticals on what woudl happen to the gaming industry if this geohot won.

um hello, every console has been hacked since the beginning of consoles, and how much has that affected us.

 

I think the bigger question is:  How much will gaming change if Sony WINS.  If sony a company wins this lawsuit about someone messing around with HIS OWN product that he purchased.  How even after he bought it, he is still somehow RENTING it and not a owner of it. It is still Sony's property and he can't do whatever he wants with it.  Legally that is.  I have yet to see anything saying he plays illegal games on it, besides mario, lol.

You guys bring up DRM as the result of sony losing, but hell i imagine much worse than drm if sony wins.



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iLLmaticV3 said:

Good to see so many people understand this case is bigger than him, if he loses it will affect ALL of us.


Please explain how it will affect all of use



geddesmond2 said:

1. So you want to do everything you can do right now on your PS3 minus the OtherOS.

2. Did you even use otherOS?

3. Are you a PS Phat owner or PS Slim owner?

4. and are you aware that otherOS was taken away from the PS3 because Geohut

5. found a way to use homebrew through otherOS?


1. I paid for the ability to use the OtherOS I plan to keep that ability.

2. No

3. Fat

4. No, it wasn't

5. You could use homebrew on Linux to begin with. He tried to compromise the security of the PS3 through Linux



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irstupid said:
Xbbjf9s said:
Immortal said:

xD, the same things keep on being repeated in this thread. It's hillarious.

I can't believe how many ridiculous analogies people draw for this, though. Hacking is not the same as murder. Not as long as it's done without a sword, anyway.

not just this thread...all of the ps3 hacked related threads. I can't wait for this to be over.

whats sad is that people keep bringing up huge hypotheticals on what woudl happen to the gaming industry if this geohot won.

um hello, every console has been hacked since the beginning of consoles, and how much has that affected us.

 

I think the bigger question is:  How much will gaming change if Sony WINS.  If sony a company wins this lawsuit about someone messing around with HIS OWN product that he purchased.  How even after he bought it, he is still somehow RENTING it and not a owner of it. It is still Sony's property and he can't do whatever he wants with it.  Legally that is.  I have yet to see anything saying he plays illegal games on it, besides mario, lol.

You guys bring up DRM as the result of sony losing, but hell i imagine much worse than drm if sony wins.

I don't care what anyone does with their console but by him releasing the root key has opened the flood gates...my friend told me his MW2 account was reset, my friend doesn't cheat so tell me how is it bad if sony wins when assholes like this are fucking over honest gamers? Everyone keeps talking about "consumer rights" don't i have the right to play without fuckers cheating me out of an honest match?



Immortal said:
Xbbjf9s said:
Immortal said:

xD, the same things keep on being repeated in this thread. It's hillarious.

I can't believe how many ridiculous analogies people draw for this, though. Hacking is not the same as murder. Not as long as it's done without a sword, anyway.

not just this thread...all of the ps3 hacked related threads. I can't wait for this to be over.

Why? This is fun. Let it last longer. Just for the entertainment.

nothing fun about it when honest gamers are getting screwed over. Sony just needs to follow MS's example so we can go back to playing games



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dsister said:
geddesmond2 said:

1. So you want to do everything you can do right now on your PS3 minus the OtherOS.

2. Did you even use otherOS?

3. Are you a PS Phat owner or PS Slim owner?

4. and are you aware that otherOS was taken away from the PS3 because Geohut

5. found a way to use homebrew through otherOS?


1. I paid for the ability to use the OtherOS I plan to keep that ability.

2. No

3. Fat

4. No, it wasn't

5. You could use homebrew on Linux to begin with. He tried to compromise the security of the PS3 through Linux


1:Well if you want to get specific you payed for the experiance that attracted you to the PS3 if otherOS wasn't that experiance then why would you care? and Sony sold the PS3 at a lose for years. You already got what you payed for.

2:Again why care if they removed it?

3:Had to ask because a lot of people using the fighting for our rights bullshit never owned a phat PS3 in the first place so OtherOS removal didn't affect them

4:So why did Sony remove otherOS then??

5:So geohut claims he just wanted to run homebrew on the PS3 and not pirate games but you could already run Homebrew on linux? So why did he try to compromise the security then?



irstupid said:
Ail said:

The worse that will come out of this is that if he somehow he wins, next gen every game will be online enabled with constant DRM checking with an online server to check that the game was purchased through legal means....

That or some other feature that half the people saying they support the dude will bitch about...

Personally I don't care if this leads to stricter DRM, still I want the dude to loose....


they will shoot themselves in the foot if they do that.  people will be turned off and just quit buying games if it is too much of a hastle.

hell i refuse to buy games like that because they are annoying.  No i do not pirate them, i don't buy them, thus don't play them either.

I want to be able to take my system to anywhere i want and be able to play. I dont' want ot have to get someones interent password to hook up to their wifi, or worry about if they even have internet.  

I don't see how you guys can root for sony.  This has nothign to do with it being sony, it has to do with a company restricting us consumers from doing what we want LEGALLY to our own products.  

hate to break the news but 90% of consoles users have it sitting in one spot and it never moves, so maybe it will bother you but it won't bother the majority of users (  but I'm sure the vocal minority will make hell on the net as usual),

Any way Sony and the others consoles makers decide to follow will surely inconvenient some people but if it allow the majority of the standard users to have a better online experience I'm sure that's a small price to pay.



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geddesmond2 said:


1:Well if you want to get specific you payed for the experiance that attracted you to the PS3 if otherOS wasn't that experiance then why would you care? and Sony sold the PS3 at a lose for years. You already got what you payed for.

2:Again why care if they removed it?

3:Had to ask because a lot of people using the fighting for our rights bullshit never owned a phat PS3 in the first place so OtherOS removal didn't affect them

4:So why did Sony remove otherOS then??

5:So geohut claims he just wanted to run homebrew on the PS3 and not pirate games but you could already run Homebrew on linux? So why did he try to compromise the security then?


1 & 2. Because as a consumer I don't very well like having stuff I paid for taken. The ability to use it if I want is there, and will remain there. If I have to go somewhere besides Sony for support then so be it.

4. Glad you asked :D

This'll give me a reason to actually do what I was planning earlier. Give me a few minutes to do some stuff and I'll get back to you

5. As someone said earlier Linux ran homebrew horribly. Homebrew on the main OS runs much more smoothly



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No one knows how much he raised?



Nevermind. I forgot I can't do what I wanted to do with number 4 on this computer :(.

Anyways, timeline time :D 

Jan 22: Geohot successfully hacks the PS3.

March 2: Sony promises to continue supporting Linux

March 29: Sony relocates the developer in charge of Linux into another department

April 1: Sony removes Linux.

Why if they removed linux because of Geohot did they wait so long? Everyone knows that Sony was spending a small fortune on supporting a feature that not many used. Blaming piracy was just the easiest way of removing it...

(@ the whiners who say the dates are different then the last time I posted that's because I actually went out to find the sources and got the correct dates)



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