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Okay I so there's this guy on the board who says 360 has more good exclusives because 2 series sold 5 million, and it just annoys me. Anyone that knows anything knows sales has far more to do with marketing and advertisement then it does have to do with quality, thats not to say that quality has no impact on sales but sales are not the end all of the quality of the game not even close. Anyone who sales sales make a better game or hell even review score averages from metacritic is just plain sad in my opinion, some of the best games I've played this gen have had trouble cracking a million and in my opinion all of them are better then those 5 million sellers as I'm sure many people agree, I just can't understand why anyone would be so ignorant as to think a game that sells more is the better game without even giving anything that sells less then 5 million a chance 



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that guy is not worth wasting my time.

Title Year Released Platform Cars Tracks Sales
Gran Turismo 1997/1998 PlayStation 178 11 10.850.000
Gran Turismo 2 1999/2000 PlayStation 650 27 9.370.000
Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 2001 PlayStation 2 180 34 14.890.000
Gran Turismo 4 2005 PlayStation 2 722 51 11.060.000
Gran Turismo (PSP) 2009 PlayStation Portable 835 55 2.960.000
Gran Turismo 5 2010 PlayStation 3 1,031 71 5.520.000[6]

Thats just for 1 series of this kind.



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I agree that sales =/= quality.

Although, quality is really subjective to the player, so it varies I suppose.  But, I don't think there is a direct link to the better sales make a better game arguement in that sense. 



It's called false security in numbers.  Owning and enjoying the game is not enough to assure some buyers that it was a wise personal choice.  That buyer has to fall back on numberS as a means of defense.  If you can't stand on your own for your own reasons then you have no right to speak.



but red steel sold loads!



                                                                           

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LivingMetal said:

It's called false security in numbers.  Owning and enjoying the game is not enough to assure some buyers that it was a wise personal choice.  That buyer has to fall back on number as a means of defense.  If you can't stand on your own for your own reasons then you have no right to speak.


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Sales are the only thing that matters to companies and quality is entirely subjective, however sales is a good reflection of what a large population thinks about a game.

What a large population thinks > what a small subgroup thinks, both in $$$ and weight of opinion.  The large selling games are giving the majority of people what they want, and is rightly the focus of game developers.  To the majority, high selling games are quality.

Your tastes aren't any better than theirs, and if you think the game is trash why are so many copies being sold?  Even if there are minor imperfections, it's not enough to stop people from buying them, so it obviously isn't as bad as you think.  For all the bitching people do about BLOPs, they're still buying it and enjoying it.

So keep hating on COD, Just Dance, and other popular things.  To me that just sounds like the whining of a bitch that wants people to like what he likes, but gets angry when people don't.



youarebadatgames said:

Sales are the only thing that matters to companies and quality is entirely subjective, however sales is a good reflection of what a large population thinks about a game.

What a large population thinks > what a small subgroup thinks, both in $$$ and weight of opinion.  The large selling games are giving the majority of people what they want, and is rightly the focus of game developers.  To the majority, high selling games are quality.

Your tastes aren't any better than theirs, and if you think the game is trash why are so many copies being sold?  Even if there are minor imperfections, it's not enough to stop people from buying them, so it obviously isn't as bad as you think.  For all the bitching people do about BLOPs, they're still buying it and enjoying it.

So keep hating on COD, Just Dance, and other popular things.  To me that just sounds like the whining of a bitch that wants people to like what he likes, but gets angry when people don't.

I never called any of the games trash and you are wrong about the sales are what matters to companies, it's the revenue that matters, it doesn't matter if a game sold 10 million if they didn't make a profit it on, if the devs costs where high and they spent a fortune on advertising even an incredibly high selling game can be a financial failure,  and you say majority opinion trumps minority but what you don't realize is that it's not their opinion that the game is better, they might just not know about the other game or not played it, games without much advertising can easily go under the radar so really you don't have any valid points



I'm sorry, but I find more people who seem to think that sales have nothing to do with quality at all than those who do. And I find this quite ridiculous. Why exactly is the opinion of you, your friend and a dozen reviewers better than that of millions of people? For you, obviously you find the games you like better. And that's fine. But really, what the masses have to say - even if they are a bunch of morons (most of us are democratic, right?) - matters more in the end.

That's not exactly relevant here, though, :P. To determine the quality of a game through its sales, you really have to account for a lot of other stuff (marketing, brand name, high profile... if a game sells under a million, it was usually in a far worse position than the game that sold 10 million, so it's not a reasonable comparison) and games on different systems are not comparable at all. I'm not gonna flaunt all the awesome sales of Wii games to HD gamers - that's not a fair comparison in any way.



 

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