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ZenfoldorVGI on 08 February 2011

Bullshit assumptions and leaps in logic can also apply the other way around. I feel about VII as you feel about VI and vice versa.

For me, the reason VI doesn't hold up as well, is the barebones script that doesn't expand on character interaction past an elementary level and leaves the user to fill in the blanks. At the time, such faults were forgivable on consoles, but now it's just antiquated. VII suffers from this to an extent, but that wasn't the reason I loved VII.

As for SNES games, both Secret of Mana and LttP hold up MUCH better than VI as RPGs go.

That said, VI is a good game, just not my favorite, and your reasonings are a tad insulting because they allude to a fantasy that your opinion is generally accepted which it isn't, in the gaming community at large, but it is adpoted by a niche FF fanbase who grew bitter when VII made the series popular in America despite their believe that it was derivitive and undeserving of the cult status that it, itself obtained.



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dharh on 09 February 2011

I play FFVII on my psp all the time, the graphics don't bother me one bit. It's much the same with FFVI actually (except I play that on my gba). Contrary to other peoples experience apparently, I find both these games gameplay to be classic and enjoyable. I still find FFVII to be the better game ultimately gameplay wise, while story wise FFVI is the better game, simply because it is still epic that the world gets 'destroyed' and you find yourself in a much changed world.



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blaydcor on 09 February 2011
ZenfoldorVGI said:

Bullshit assumptions and leaps in logic can also apply the other way around. I feel about VII as you feel about VI and vice versa.

For me, the reason VI doesn't hold up as well, is the barebones script that doesn't expand on character interaction past an elementary level and leaves the user to fill in the blanks. At the time, such faults were forgivable on consoles, but now it's just antiquated. VII suffers from this to an extent, but that wasn't the reason I loved VII.

As for SNES games, both Secret of Mana and LttP hold up MUCH better than VI as RPGs go.

That said, VI is a good game, just not my favorite, and your reasonings are a tad insulting because they allude to a fantasy that your opinion is generally accepted which it isn't, in the gaming community at large, but it is adpoted by a niche FF fanbase who grew bitter when VII made the series popular in America despite their believe that it was derivitive and undeserving of the cult status that it, itself obtained.


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MrT-Tar on 09 February 2011

my heart sank when I saw 'FFVI has terrible and broken gameplay'




menx64 on 09 February 2011
Christian973 said:

AND THIS:

Amazing, just amazing, best Intro IMO, and on top of that you can add the best story in a FF to date, great characters (Terra FTW) and amazing graphics (for its time)... Best FF game IMHO...  



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MaxwellGT2000 on 09 February 2011
Khuutra said:

"Final Fantasy VI has terrible gameplay, it's broken and boring."

No it doesn't and no it isn't. Your repeated insistence on this point suggests that your perspective on the mechanical merits of JRPGs is skewed to the point of running counter to people who actually enjoy the genre.

Edit: And don't get me started on this shit about Final Fantasy IV.


Yeah I'm with you 100% on this, I mean the ATB system is probably one of the best RPG systems ever created, and it actually irritates me that Square holds the rights to it so no other developers can use it (it pains me since Square is not using it anymore and keeps coming up with terrible alternatives)

Saying FFIV, VI, or VII has broken or bad gameplay is just poppycock, that's like saying turn based RPGs are bad, SRPGs can no longer hold up over time cause it requires something that isn't fast paced or active... It's like saying D&D is no longer relevant because it uses an older style because there's new table top games that do away with that like Hero clix... 

Overall the idea that artistically VI will always look better was known back when VII came out... VII really wasn't graphically impressive it was more the content at the time was impressive since there were already much better looking games on the PS1 and N64 and even then there were already debates on how even games were 3D the 2D counterparts looked better because it had style and honestly more detail than the first gen 3D titles with solid color textures and the like.

So while I agree on Twesterms point about how both games look some of the ideas are just outlandish, people shouldn't throw away old techniques cause something "better" has come along, it's like developers that make budget titles now don't even animate models or add shadows because they can't afford to spend time adding in a physics or light engine... so instead of using the old PS1 and N64 techniques and making it look nice they use stiff models and circle shadows... and well that's just backwards... retarded... and it pisses me off every time I see it.



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Jumpin on 09 February 2011

I find that the "outdated terrible gameplay" of FF6 and FF7 is far superior to most of todays "progressive" RPGs, which I find are destroying the genre.

 

Anyway, I liked FF8 the best of them all. 



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The Fury on 09 February 2011

If there is one game I'd love to experience in new glorious 3D HD remake of (graphics only) it's Final Fantasy VI, while VII is my favourite, VI would be great to see in all new prettiness, artistically it could be amazing. The gameplay is excellent, as good as any FF game of the 90s. Just a shame we've lost all that since.



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Alphachris on 09 February 2011

I must admit that I had real problems with FF6. Since FF 7 was the first to be released in Austria, I could play FF 6 for the first time when I bought the Compilation (FF 4 and FF 6). While I really liked FF4 (and I am looking forward to the PSP Version^^), I stopped playing FF 6 after the Doomtrain Sequence. It was the first FF that I didn't play through... Some years later I bought the GBA Version and played it through this time, but after I had finished it I skipped the bonus dungeons. I was somehow glad, that it was over....

Just to show how different gaming tastes can be. FF6 is one of the lowest on my list...

 



Porcupine_I on 09 February 2011

Final Fantasy VI was the perfect closure for one generation and Final Fantasy VII was the perfect entrance for the next.

 

i love both dearly and i don't see why i would be made to like one less than the other

 

 



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