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ssj12 said:
krik said:

Actually I played both on the same TV, both with HDMI and they look pretty similar. The only think I notice were some small frame rate drops on the 360.

Please note that these frame rate drops don't hurt game play at all. It dips maybe to 30-40 FPS in some situations but most of the time it runs at 60 FPS.

On the PS3 I didn't see any frame rate drops at all. It seems to consistently keep the 60 FPS even online.

Anyway, this is the best (technically speaking) game I ever seen running on the 360.

PS: I did not play online on the 360, only on the PS3 since I had no access to XBox Live.


that just shows that one dev that said that ports from the PS3 to the 360 is better then ports 360 to PS3.


 ssj12:

I understand why that would be the case. If they code for the PS3 first their code will be designed in such a way that can run in parallel with very little lock contention. This because their system must be coded to be sent to the SPEs and run without interruptions at all. This same design will run much better on 360's triple core CPU as well.

On the other hand games coded on the 360 normally don't push 360's 3 cores very well. They will be multi threaded and 360's OS scheduler will put one thread on each core but since all threads are accessing the same data they will eventually block on a mutex and will force the OS to either let the core idle waiting on the lock or swap the code out of the core and assign it a new thread. Of course, either way this costs I/O and kernel scheduler time.

Games designed in such a way that their main systems (like collision/physics, streaming, animation, etc) can run independently of each other run better in multiple core systems and of course on the PS3.

 



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Optimistic predictions for 2008 (Feb 5 2008): Wii = 20M, PS3 = 14M, X360 = 9.5M

 

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While the question might be flame bait we do need such question from time to time just to shake off the propaganda. Repeating slogans endlessly does not make something true. Something is true when it is true. The PS3 lineup isn't shaping up quite as well as some posters would have the community think especially as titles continue to slide backwards, and precedence has proved these posters woefully wrong in the past.

That said the original poster is pointing out something the slip sliding launch windows is delaying any chance of a software enabled come back early next year. Multi platforms games do not favor Sony they favor Microsoft with the less expensive system, and the more extensive high quality library.

Further more a few titles mentioned here are highly questionable. Not every exclusive title is a good title. I have to question the appeal of Killzone, or Little Big Planet. Other platforms appealing to those markets far more effectively. They almost feel like me too games. Like Sony is pleading with lost markets. I even question Prologue. Are we forgetting this is a demo and not a game. That begs the question why not wait to buy the real game, or why buy a console to play a demo.

I could have sworn I heard the reason Haze was delayed being attributed to scathing previews of the title. That said I wouldn't be too optimistic about the title. As for KBGs comments why to be a nationalistic dick.



NeoRatt said:
krik said:
NeoRatt said:
krik said:
NeoRatt said:
Diabloz said:
thx1138 said:
leo-j said:
The whole year.

So whats coming in January?


 Haze of course :D


I predict Haze will get the same kind of ratings as TimeShift.  Not exactly going to "light it up"...


Well, TimeSplitters on PS2 has a 90 from metacritic. Hopefully Free Radical will do even better with Haze ;) 

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps2/timesplitters2?q=timesplitters

 


TimeShift not TimeSplinters...

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/timeshift?q=timeshift

Delusional Sony fanboy... Always wanting to see something other then what was actually there.


 I saw it clearly but TimeShift is a POS FPS that has nothing to do with Haze. On the other hand TimeSplitters is made by Free Radical... just like Haze.

You are the delusional fanboy if you actually thought I didn't know the difference between TimeShift and TimeSplitters, rofl 


Its difficult to figure out when Sony fanboys are genuinely delusional or genuinely think they are logical...

Sorry...


 No, I'm the one that's sorry... for you. I realize now you were bad mouthing a game you didn't know sh*t about. What a retard...

So, you know nothing about Free Radical and Haze and you still predicting the same reviews as that TimeShift POS? I call that a wish not a prediction. You wish for Haze to suck, like you wish for all PS3 games to suck. Oh well, we have good games and you're the one missing out. 



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Optimistic predictions for 2008 (Feb 5 2008): Wii = 20M, PS3 = 14M, X360 = 9.5M

 

The icredible 2008 for ps3 has been delayed to 2009.



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Dodece said:
While the question might be flame bait we do need such question from time to time just to shake off the propaganda. Repeating slogans endlessly does not make something true. Something is true when it is true. The PS3 lineup isn't shaping up quite as well as some posters would have the community think especially as titles continue to slide backwards, and precedence has proved these posters woefully wrong in the past.

That said the original poster is pointing out something the slip sliding launch windows is delaying any chance of a software enabled come back early next year. Multi platforms games do not favor Sony they favor Microsoft with the less expensive system, and the more extensive high quality library.

Further more a few titles mentioned here are highly questionable. Not every exclusive title is a good title. I have to question the appeal of Killzone, or Little Big Planet. Other platforms appealing to those markets far more effectively. They almost feel like me too games. Like Sony is pleading with lost markets. I even question Prologue. Are we forgetting this is a demo and not a game. That begs the question why not wait to buy the real game, or why buy a console to play a demo.

I could have sworn I heard the reason Haze was delayed being attributed to scathing previews of the title. That said I wouldn't be too optimistic about the title. As for KBGs comments why to be a nationalistic dick.

Haze is not going to be exclusive. It will most likely be on the 360/PC later in 2008. Anyway I'm very optimistic about Haze. So we will have to wait and see...

I have no doubts about GT5, KZ2 and LBP selling consoles. Maybe not in USA since USA is in denial about the quality of PS3 games but surely in Japan/EU they will sell lots of consoles... as will MGS4 and FFXII/FFXIIIVersus

2008 will be good for the PS3, you will see

 



PSN ID: krik

Optimistic predictions for 2008 (Feb 5 2008): Wii = 20M, PS3 = 14M, X360 = 9.5M

 

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Slimebeast said:
HAze? lol
Haze will sell only 200,000 copies in NA.

 lol this is coming from the guy who has that the ps3 will sell only 7.5 million this year in his sig.



end said: ps3 is already a failure, even if it goes to number 1 at the end of this generation.

NYANKS said: And please, if Nintendo can recover from the mind blowing pwnage dealt to it by Sony over the last ten years, I think Sony will be fine.

The Church of Freeman

All in all your just another brick in the wall.

Supposedly, PS3 domination is going to start with Metal Gear Solid 4 and then go on from there.. but I just don't see it happening. Konami is really on the downslope and when MGS4 flops, it may be a crippling blow.

I don't doubt that MGS4 will sell a million copies, but I wouldn't expect it to sell much more than that and given the cost of developing this game, it will be the biggest flop of all time.

Killzone 2 will also be a massive flop, costing Sony tens of millions of dollars. 

 



krik said:
Dodece said:
While the question might be flame bait we do need such question from time to time just to shake off the propaganda. Repeating slogans endlessly does not make something true. Something is true when it is true. The PS3 lineup isn't shaping up quite as well as some posters would have the community think especially as titles continue to slide backwards, and precedence has proved these posters woefully wrong in the past.

That said the original poster is pointing out something the slip sliding launch windows is delaying any chance of a software enabled come back early next year. Multi platforms games do not favor Sony they favor Microsoft with the less expensive system, and the more extensive high quality library.

Further more a few titles mentioned here are highly questionable. Not every exclusive title is a good title. I have to question the appeal of Killzone, or Little Big Planet. Other platforms appealing to those markets far more effectively. They almost feel like me too games. Like Sony is pleading with lost markets. I even question Prologue. Are we forgetting this is a demo and not a game. That begs the question why not wait to buy the real game, or why buy a console to play a demo.

I could have sworn I heard the reason Haze was delayed being attributed to scathing previews of the title. That said I wouldn't be too optimistic about the title. As for KBGs comments why to be a nationalistic dick.

Haze is not going to be exclusive. It will most likely be on the 360/PC later in 2008. Anyway I'm very optimistic about Haze. So we will have to wait and see...

I have no doubts about GT5, KZ2 and LBP selling consoles. Maybe not in USA since USA is in denial about the quality of PS3 games but surely in Japan/EU they will sell lots of consoles... as will MGS4 and FFXII/FFXIIIVersus

2008 will be good for the PS3, you will see

 

It's been canned on the 360 and PC:

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6177964.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;1

Speaking of the game, why are SOOOO many people so sure that it will suck? Last time I checked, this game is being developed by the same people that brought us GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, and TimeSplitters. I'm pretty sure those games didn't suck.

It's like saying that GTA4 is going to suck, even though R* is a proven developer

 



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