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nightsurge said:
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NotStan said:
Wagram said:

There is a year difference between the HD consoles and fanboys seem to completely disregard that. On a time from launch basis the PS3 is beating the 360 by a good margin.

Au contraire, it's the fanboys that insist on aligning the launch dates so they can claim that PS3 is the king, boo hoo MS got a year head start, people are cherry picking as if releasing a product earlier is an illegal practice.

Gen started when MS released the 360, so the sales of all the consoles entering that gen count from the beginning. Wii came out later and still managed to whoop the 360.


Believe what you will but the data shows that Sony is in fact winning. However Nintendo is winning all around.

Lol? Didn't realize being millions behind counted as winning?


/sigh another person who can't read. Must be going around. I give up on you people.

Lol? The fact of the matter is that even if you want to use some lame race analogy with the 360 having a head start it is STILL in the lead overall, so no matter what, the data shows the PS3 is most definitely not winning.

The cherry picked data that is flawed for many many reasons, maybe, but not the overall data which is the only important measure.

Nice flaming, though.


How is that flaming?

I'm seriously getting tired of people who don't take the time to actually READ. I never once stated that the PS3 was beating the 360 world wide. I have stated multiple times (if you would actually READ THE THREAD) that the PS3 is winning in terms of sales from launch on a time basis. The 360 had a year head start but the PS3 has been outselling it.

How is that not flaming? You were trying to imply I am not intelligent enough to read.

I read your post perfectly fine, it is your other later response that has no basis and should have been clarified. You can't make incredibly flawed, cherry picking generalizations about the data just to say someone is winning. Personal agenda, perhaps?

You're a man with no agenda though right?  Mr. Two Halo Posters on the wall in your living room.  ;)



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mantlepiecek said:


You are just stressing how poor the brand did, not doing. Its doing very well right now. When this gen ends PS3 will most likely have profited from this gen (Sony expects it to, anyway) and that will undo the "biggest financial failure of gaming history".

Just because Federer used to be 1st, and is now under Nadal doesn't make him a loser. Just saying

In retrospect, its not how bad the brand is doing. More how unbelievably horrible PS3 did financially.

Are you implying Sony said PS3 will profit? Its just not gonna happen. The gaming division should continue to see some profits, but PS3 will never recoup its losses.



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yo_john117 said:

And it fucking begins again >_> 

This is such a tiresome subject and brings nothing but trouble.


This. First off, does it really matter? Secondly, why are you people willing to make idiots of yourselves just to validate a choice you made...just why?



"with great power, comes great responsibility."

That's not how things work. Sure, comparing aligned launches can make sense up to a few months. But at this point in the generation it doesnt make sense.

 

The 360 launched earlier, which gave it an early lead, but gave rise to problems such as RROD, and allowed Sony to make the PS3 more powerful. All balances out by this stage of the generation



The thing about statistics is there is always someone trying to interpret it the way the want to.  The fact is Wii is way ahead, 360 is currently 2nd and PS3 3rd.  All of the consoles are doing very well.  If you align the launches then PS3 is ahead of 360.  But the fact that the 360 is doing as well as it is and the PS3 is trying to get to 2nd is something that no one had predicted when this all started.  PS2 came out well after the Dreamcast and look where it ended up.  Many people were predicting the same thing before the PS3 came out.  No one expected the Wii to run away the way it did.  Fact is Sony had the crown and lost it and now trying for runner's up.  In the end though being 3rd in this generation is nothing to be ashamed of as all consoles are doing amazing and getting alot of developer's support.



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I'll take the alligned launches aspect, how about a PS3 in 2005 for $799?



Tease.

A difference of 2.88 million between 2nd and 3rd is not bad. I still see the PS3 when all said in done to outship 360 ( i believe ps3 will be on the market longer than the 360). Besides all 3 machines are now profitable. And besides software on the PS3 with maybe a 1/3 of the PS2 userbase still manages to sell better than it had on the PS2. Examples would be god of war, uncharted, killzone, etc. Besides I think this is actually good for Sony. It really allowed them to step their game up. If 360 did not become so dominant with xbox live then i doubt psn would be where it is today. So all in all this gen has been good for all 3 console makers.



Squilliam said:

I'll take the alligned launches aspect, how about a PS3 in 2005 for $799?


insanity!!!!



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Rpruett said:

You're a man with no agenda though right?  Mr. Two Halo Posters on the wall in your living room.  ;)

=O Stalker! I only put those up because my girlfriend said my living room looked too plain/girly (the ex decorated).  She works at gamestop so she gave me them to decorate with. I have since moved to a new house and no longer have those posters... so there!



SpartenOmega117 said:

A difference of 2.88 million between 2nd and 3rd is not bad. I still see the PS3 when all said in done to outship 360 ( i believe ps3 will be on the market longer than the 360). Besides all 3 machines are now profitable. And besides software on the PS3 with maybe a 1/3 of the PS2 userbase still manages to sell better than it had on the PS2. Examples would be god of war, uncharted, killzone, etc. Besides I think this is actually good for Sony. It really allowed them to step their game up. If 360 did not become so dominant with xbox live then i doubt psn would be where it is today. So all in all this gen has been good for all 3 console makers.

I hate to be picky when your post is largely good but Killzone is the only one that has sold better on PS3 than PS2 and Uncharted itself wasn't even on PS2.



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