The difference between wii and kinect is that wii is a full feldge system, came out years ago and was nintendos (the oldest successful brand name in video gaming) and I just don't see Kinect coming even close to getting the market appeal it did people who want it aren't waiting for a price cut, a few will be waiting for better games but I don't see it doing anything more then it already has so again I don't see it's sales increasing by any significant amount ever, not everyone is as easy to please as you guess we just have to wait another 3 months to find out who's right 

Never said I expected it would sell anywhere near as much as the 360 version (why are you so convinced it is overtracked?)  I hoped it would sell around a million or maybe a little over (think there was even a thread about that before).

I acknowledged your Bioshock example, but why not acknowledge the RE4 example?  It is not as if there isn't precedent for what I was hoping for.  And the reality that ME3 is coming day and date, wouldn't that make more want to play this to prep for it?

Also, I think you took my comments about ME3 on PS3 a little too literally.  It was a response to this tepid reception and nothing more.  I got treated like a PS3 fanboy in a recent thread where I was complimenting how GT5 sales helped Sony's NPS to have a better than expected quarter.  Can't win here sometimes.

Anyway, a ton of PS3 owners that haven't played ME2 are really missing something special.  That's how I feel strongly.

Wow, the PS3 is getting destroyed by the 360 in the Americas! Almost 2 to 1.

thismeintiel said:

You act as if the PS3 came out 2 or 3 years after the 360 or that the 360 got the majority of its sales in the first year of its release.  In the time of the release of the 360 and the PS3's release, the 360 sold ~5.3 mil, a far cry from its install base now.  So not everyone who waited for the PS3 did it for brand loyalty.  Maybe the 360 didn't appeal to them.  Maybe they were also interested in Blu-ray.  Maybe they were scared off by the RROD reports.  Who knows?  And it also doesn't explain all the new owners of the PS3.  In your mind should they have gone with the 360 so as not to appear bias?  Either way, you can't just lump the majority of PS3 owners as Sony loyalists.

As for RE4, you do realise that it released in 2005, right?  The PS2 had already claimed that gen, for both casual and hardcore gamers.  PS2 had ~ 80 mil compared to Gamecube's ~ 18 mil.  Who would you release to?  Also, both games came out the same year, the Gamecube in Jan and the PS2 in Oct, so it wasn't a full year's wait.  And yes, the new control scheme was part of the reason people bought the Wii version.  That and an even more important factor, nostalgia.

As someone pointed out earlier, ME2 has sold about the same amount in 2 weeks that Bioshock sold in 5 weeks.  Considering that game ended up selling ~ 810K, ME2 could pass the 1 mil mark.  Which is pretty damn good for a year late port in my book.

Carl2291 said:

I'm convinced that it's overtracked becuase by the end of the Quarter it released, it had sold 1.6 Million units at retail with PC version and downloads included, according to EA. We had the 360 version alone at 1.6 Million. It's overtracked. By a lot. All the other games they mentioned matched our data, while ME2 was hugely overtracked and never changed. There's hundreds of links for it, but I'll just drop one. http://www.examiner.com/video-game-news-in-national/ea-reveals-sales-results-for-army-of-two-the-40th-day-dante-s-inferno-and-mass-effect-2

Resident Evil 4 is a totally different example. It was one of the first high quality games on the Wii, no offence to the Wii, but there wasn't exactly a lot of quality games on the system at the time of RE4 release. It helps that RE also sells amazingly well in all regions, and had a userbase of over 3 Million people who potentially wanted to play it again with a new, hyped up control scheme. It's a totally different comparison due to the time of when the game released.

It's also worth noting that you shouldn't judge these games on the openings they have. Judge them on the legs they have. If they really are of high quality, they will have legs. Word of mouth will help them out a lot. Again, 150k in 2 Weeks of being on sale is not bad at all. Not when BioShock opened up to 60k, took 5 Weeks to reach 150k, and finished up at over 800k units.

I feel that a ton of them are being quite brainy, and waiting for the price to drop.

I doubt it's much of a case of people are "tired" of Sony, but rather Kinect is making quite the splash on the Xbox 360.

And how could the gap in EMEAA not be getting any bigger? The PS3 outsells the 360 by at least 30k weekly. Unless you don't add that to the total, the gap is obviously getting bigger there, as it is in the Americas the other way around (albeit at a higher rate).

Then the 360 boost in Americas make sense, but the lack of boost in EMEAA doesn't (I leave Japan out because we all know the dealio).  The types of games Kinect has don't appeal to the typical 360 base established in Americas and the UK, yet those are the places where it has sold the most and boosted 360 sales.  Is it simply that more are being shipped to those regions?  Is it advertised more heavily there?  You would think the Kinect effect would be more balanced like the Wii effect was, but we're not seeing that ...

That's what I hope.  Let's just agree on that and end this derailment, k?