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melbye said:

I think because Europe has never been a priority for japanese companies and therefore they haven't really tried promoting them.

Perhaps it should be in the future then!

@stopstopp-Interesting view there- perhaps it isn't as big a region, but it still contributes a lot to sales!

Also, have you seen the sales of pokemon in Japan? Madness



 

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Antabus said:

I am european and I love wrpg:s and some jrpg:s.

Precisely. So, why don't they release them in Europe then?



 

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Conegamer said:
Machina said:

Because JRPGs are boring.

Woah woah woah, do you have any evidence/reasoning to back this up?

Or is it just from personal experience? You should know better than most that that could be seen as baiting and/or trolling, so I hope you have some reasoning...

On a similar tangent, many people see RPG's, not as boring, but either:

 

  • Too time consuming
  • Too complex
  • A mixture of both
So I can see where the issue comes from. Personally, I find the way in which RPG's are handled by the different publishers interesting-it's certainly one of the fastest-growing genres, and also one of the best, in many people's eyes. If it continues to evolve it's only a matter of time before we find another masterpiece on a similar scale of Mario Galaxy, Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time. It's all a matter of patience really...

Evidence? It's just my opinion.

I have a list of reasons as long as my arm as to why I find them boring, from being anachronistic, unattractive, inaccessible, and tedious, being neither enjoyable nor engaging, and consistently having awful storytelling (the genre's raison d'être!) and cringe-worthy dialogue. I've played all of 5 JRPGs this gen (tho they are supposedly some of the best), so it's not exactly an informed opinion, but I don't feel like wasting 100s more hours on them just to confirm to myself that I find them boring.



Conegamer said:
Antabus said:

I am european and I love wrpg:s and some jrpg:s.

Precisely. So, why don't they release them in Europe then?

That is something you should propably ask from those japanese companies. :P I don't care for other (wii) jrpg:s, but I hope Last story will show up soon.



Machina said:
Conegamer said:
Machina said:

Because JRPGs are boring.

Woah woah woah, do you have any evidence/reasoning to back this up?

Or is it just from personal experience? You should know better than most that that could be seen as baiting and/or trolling, so I hope you have some reasoning...

On a similar tangent, many people see RPG's, not as boring, but either:

 

  • Too time consuming
  • Too complex
  • A mixture of both
So I can see where the issue comes from. Personally, I find the way in which RPG's are handled by the different publishers interesting-it's certainly one of the fastest-growing genres, and also one of the best, in many people's eyes. If it continues to evolve it's only a matter of time before we find another masterpiece on a similar scale of Mario Galaxy, Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time. It's all a matter of patience really...

Evidence? It's just my opinion.

I have a list of reasons as long as my arm as to why I find them boring, from being anacrhonistic, unattractive, inaccessible, unenjoyable, unengaging and tedious, to consistently having awful storytelling (the genre's raison d'être!) and cringe-worthy dialogue. I've played all of 5 JRPGs this gen (tho they are supposedly some of the best), so it's not exactly an informed opinion, but I don't feel like wasting 100s more hours on them just to confirm to myself that I find them boring.

Yeah, I suppose. 

Like I say, you really need to "click" with RPG's to be able to play them. If you don't, you won't enjoy them. It's as simple as that really

(The dialogue is cringe-worthy, but isn't it in most games really?)

 

@Antabus- As do I. If that, Xenoblade and (really) Tales Of Graces don't come either I think I'll send an angry letter to Nintendo

Well, another one anyway



 

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Conegamer said:
Machina said:
Conegamer said:
Machina said:

Because JRPGs are boring.

Woah woah woah, do you have any evidence/reasoning to back this up?

Or is it just from personal experience? You should know better than most that that could be seen as baiting and/or trolling, so I hope you have some reasoning...

On a similar tangent, many people see RPG's, not as boring, but either:

 

  • Too time consuming
  • Too complex
  • A mixture of both
So I can see where the issue comes from. Personally, I find the way in which RPG's are handled by the different publishers interesting-it's certainly one of the fastest-growing genres, and also one of the best, in many people's eyes. If it continues to evolve it's only a matter of time before we find another masterpiece on a similar scale of Mario Galaxy, Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time. It's all a matter of patience really...

Evidence? It's just my opinion.

I have a list of reasons as long as my arm as to why I find them boring, from being anacrhonistic, unattractive, inaccessible, unenjoyable, unengaging and tedious, to consistently having awful storytelling (the genre's raison d'être!) and cringe-worthy dialogue. I've played all of 5 JRPGs this gen (tho they are supposedly some of the best), so it's not exactly an informed opinion, but I don't feel like wasting 100s more hours on them just to confirm to myself that I find them boring.

Yeah, I suppose. 

Like I say, you really need to "click" with RPG's to be able to play them. If you don't, you won't enjoy them. It's as simple as that really

(The dialogue is cringe-worthy, but isn't it in most games really?)

 

@Antabus- As do I. If that, Xenoblade and (really) Tales Of Graces don't come either I think I'll send an angry letter to Nintendo

Well, another one anyway

Oh absolutely, but like I said, story-telling is this genre's supposed strength.



Machina said:
Conegamer said:
Machina said:
Conegamer said:
Machina said:

Because JRPGs are boring.

Woah woah woah, do you have any evidence/reasoning to back this up?

Or is it just from personal experience? You should know better than most that that could be seen as baiting and/or trolling, so I hope you have some reasoning...

On a similar tangent, many people see RPG's, not as boring, but either:

 

  • Too time consuming
  • Too complex
  • A mixture of both
So I can see where the issue comes from. Personally, I find the way in which RPG's are handled by the different publishers interesting-it's certainly one of the fastest-growing genres, and also one of the best, in many people's eyes. If it continues to evolve it's only a matter of time before we find another masterpiece on a similar scale of Mario Galaxy, Final Fantasy 7 and Ocarina of Time. It's all a matter of patience really...

Evidence? It's just my opinion.

I have a list of reasons as long as my arm as to why I find them boring, from being anacrhonistic, unattractive, inaccessible, unenjoyable, unengaging and tedious, to consistently having awful storytelling (the genre's raison d'être!) and cringe-worthy dialogue. I've played all of 5 JRPGs this gen (tho they are supposedly some of the best), so it's not exactly an informed opinion, but I don't feel like wasting 100s more hours on them just to confirm to myself that I find them boring.

Yeah, I suppose. 

Like I say, you really need to "click" with RPG's to be able to play them. If you don't, you won't enjoy them. It's as simple as that really

(The dialogue is cringe-worthy, but isn't it in most games really?)

 

@Antabus- As do I. If that, Xenoblade and (really) Tales Of Graces don't come either I think I'll send an angry letter to Nintendo

Well, another one anyway

Oh absolutely, but like I said, story-telling is this genre's supposed strength.

Only really as of late, early RPG's had no story at all. I always thought it was more about the fantasy idealistic world ravaged with destruction which was the main aim, something modern RPG's are, sadly, moving away from...



 

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I have no idea why :/ i think that in a part of the world where a generic shooter is top there isnt much room for games that involve slow progression games which JRPG's quite often are. FF13 did prove though that its not impossible for JRPG's  sell insane numbers. But new IP's often fall flat :/ (though tales of grace does sometimes do very well)



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Chibi.V.29 said:

I have no idea why :/ i think that in a part of the world where a generic shooter is top there isnt much room for games that involve slow progression games which JRPG's quite often are. FF13 did prove though that its not impossible for JRPG's  sell insane numbers. But new IP's often fall flat :/ (though tales of grace does sometimes do very well)

Final Fantasy, as you say, is an established series. They always sell well, no matter the quality. The fact that new IP's sell very few numbers in the UK shows that there isn't a market there, and that most consumers are ignorant to the fact that the genre even exists



 

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Conegamer said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

I have no idea why :/ i think that in a part of the world where a generic shooter is top there isnt much room for games that involve slow progression games which JRPG's quite often are. FF13 did prove though that its not impossible for JRPG's  sell insane numbers. But new IP's often fall flat :/ (though tales of grace does sometimes do very well)

Final Fantasy, as you say, is an established series. They always sell well, no matter the quality. The fact that new IP's sell very few numbers in the UK shows that there isn't a market there, and that most consumers are ignorant to the fact that the genre even exists

urh its so annoying :/ even half the people i know that get ff games dont even know there rpg's O.o 

Its a shame realy :/



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