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Grimes said:

Nothing wrong with being fiscally conservative. Apple works in a fiscally conservative manner and it didn't stop them from beating everyone else.


Nothing is wrong that that approach especially given the circumstances I outlined above.   However,  there is greater potential for obvious reasons with the Microsoft / Sony approach (Even if it's never / rarely  fully realized or capitalized upon). 



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Rpruett said:
Grimes said:

Nothing wrong with being fiscally conservative. Apple works in a fiscally conservative manner and it didn't stop them from beating everyone else.


Nothing is wrong that that approach especially given the circumstances I outlined above.   However,  there is greater potential for obvious reasons with the Microsoft / Sony approach (Even if it's never / rarely  fully realized or capitalized upon). 


No one lives long term only on potential. Most companies that success are fiscally conservative. Living above your possibilities  bite in your ass at the end.



Rpruett said:
Grimes said:

Nothing wrong with being fiscally conservative. Apple works in a fiscally conservative manner and it didn't stop them from beating everyone else.


Nothing is wrong that that approach especially given the circumstances I outlined above.   However,  there is greater potential for obvious reasons with the Microsoft / Sony approach (Even if it's never / rarely  fully realized or capitalized upon). 

Unrealized potential is for losers.



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Great chart, but can you update it with SEGA's profits from the Dreamcast - 2011 as well? I wanna see the odds of them making a new console.



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liu777 said:

And so as the PS3 and 360 ants continue to squabble for the crumbs, oblivious to the giant boot that is the Wii coming down to crush them...

O.o Ok but seriously the amount of profit the Wii is raking in is just criminal...


No.  There is nothing wrong with making money by selling something that is highly sought after.  If Nintendo forced people to buy Wii or if Wii killed people, that would be different.  But profit is a good thing and Nintendo should be thanked and studied for doing so.



 

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Kynes said:
Rpruett said:
Grimes said:

Nothing wrong with being fiscally conservative. Apple works in a fiscally conservative manner and it didn't stop them from beating everyone else.


Nothing is wrong that that approach especially given the circumstances I outlined above.   However,  there is greater potential for obvious reasons with the Microsoft / Sony approach (Even if it's never / rarely  fully realized or capitalized upon). 


No one lives long term only on potential. Most companies that success are fiscally conservative. Living above your possibilities  bite in your ass at the end.

I don't disagree but with corporations as large as Sony and Microsoft there is such an immense amount of resources at their disposal that being fiscally conservative doesn't jive too well with being a pro-active company.  Microsoft and Sony have their hands in so many different regions of business that they can't play the game without an aggressive attitude.

Obviously,  Microsoft and Sony have not exclusively  'only lived on potential' either.  If anything,  Nintendo has been that company for several generations prior to the Wii.  

Grimes said:
 

Unrealized potential is for losers.

Not necessarily.  Unrealized potential gives you a chance to identify where your problems lie and how to improve upon them to realize future potential.  Without failure, you cannot have success.  



ivanpgcs said:

table with more years:

Wow Nintendo

Dont know about Sony and Nintendo, but this chart is incorrect with regards to Microsoft numbers. MS doesnt have profit and loss by segment on MS Investors site for FY2002 when the original Xbox launched.

FY2010 - $679
FY2009 - $108
FY2008 - $497
FY2007 - ($1,926) - Includes $1B set aside for RRoD
FY2006 - ($1,284)
FY2005 - ($485)
FY2004 - ($1,220)
FY2003 - ($1,191)



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

thx1139 said:
ivanpgcs said:

table with more years:

Wow Nintendo

Dont know about Sony and Nintendo, but this chart is incorrect with regards to Microsoft numbers. MS doesnt have profit and loss by segment on MS Investors site for FY2002 when the original Xbox launched.

FY2010 - $679
FY2009 - $108
FY2008 - $497
FY2007 - ($1,926) - Includes $1B set aside for RRoD
FY2006 - ($1,284)
FY2005 - ($485)
FY2004 - ($1,220)
FY2003 - ($1,191)

Some years are off compared to mine, and some are spot on! Bolded are off



I swear MS jig around their numbers xD



 

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Lafiel said:

oh, they only make -$2 - $5.5 ? that's way less then I imagined ;) 

I guess your x-achsis is meant to say $1bln/2bln/...

Mad55 said:

wow the gamecube did alright despite losing lol.

uhm.. don't you think that it's more likely GBA and DS are responsible for Nintendo's profits during the GC era?

what im saying is the gamecube still made a profit geez.