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famousringo on 01 February 2011
Kynes said:
famousringo said:

Good stuff, Seece! I recently had to go digging for Liquidninja's old threads to answer a question somebody asked in another forum. Nice to see somebody keeping this stuff up to date.

If you're feeling extra ambitious, I think a cumulative profit/loss graph would be pretty spiffy.


Maybe this can help:


Fan-freakin'-tastic! Now you're visualizing with power!

2008 really was quite an inflection point for MS, wasn't it? It'll be interesting to see if they can sustain it into the next console gen.



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Viper1 on 01 February 2011
yo_john117 said:
Grimes said:
Acevil said:
yo_john117 said:

Why was the the latest year for the Wii not very profitable?


Some accounting thing they apparently do every 5 years from what some people have told me. I know the trick (roughly), but I didn't know they did it once to account for 5 years. 

Next year should be a good year again. 

Nintendo holds much of its profits in foreign currency. If those currencies do poorly then eventually, Nintedo has to make adjustments to compensate.

Ok that makes sense. The yen must not be doing so good.

Not so good.  But the big difference is that 2 quarters ago, Nintendo took a one time currency exchange write off of ~$729 million.  Had they not done this, they would have posted profits over $500 million.  So even with a down Yen, they still post massive profits.   It's just when they do the large currency exchanges bundled into 1 quarter that it looks bad.



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mundus6 on 02 February 2011
yo_john117 said:
Grimes said:
Acevil said:
yo_john117 said:

Why was the the latest year for the Wii not very profitable?


Some accounting thing they apparently do every 5 years from what some people have told me. I know the trick (roughly), but I didn't know they did it once to account for 5 years. 

Next year should be a good year again. 

Nintendo holds much of its profits in foreign currency. If those currencies do poorly then eventually, Nintedo has to make adjustments to compensate.

Ok that makes sense. The yen must not be doing so good.

If yen is strong and its their main currency, they wont be getting much money since most their sales is in dollars or euro. If the yen is weak and most sales is in other currencys then they should be making more money since their main currency is low when compared. Of coruse in real life a high main currency is always good, but when you do ficial reports like this, it can make the numbers seem smaller than they actually are.



Carl on 02 February 2011

I've just skipped straight to the end of this thread, so if it's been brought up before... I'm sorry.

When can we expect Sony's financials? Isn't it supposed to be today?



                            

Kynes on 02 February 2011
mundus6 said:
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If yen is strong and its their main currency, they wont be getting much money since most their sales is in dollars or euro. If the yen is weak and most sales is in other currencys then they should be making more money since their main currency is low when compared. Of coruse in real life a high main currency is always good, but when you do ficial reports like this, it can make the numbers seem smaller than they actually are.


It depends if you're an export or import country. If your fiscal balance is positive (you export more) it's good for you to have a weaker currency, as this way your products are much more competitive. If you import more, a stronger currency will let you buy more with the same money. This is why Japan has a big problem with the Yen, and why China doesn't want to let the Rmb trade freely, because it would strengthen and make Chinese products costlier to the other countries, earning them the same, or they would have to sell earning less than with a weaker currency. 



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psrock on 03 February 2011

I love this thread. When can we expect an update Seece?



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Seece on 03 February 2011
psrock said:

I love this thread. When can we expect an update Seece?

Soon



 

scapegoatsqueal on 03 February 2011
Seece said:
psrock said:

I love this thread. When can we expect an update Seece?

Soon


Update it with SEGA's profits though the 2000-2010 decade too! I'd like to know if I should keep this Dreamcast 2 pre-order money or not



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heruamon on 03 February 2011

Great stuff, Seece...these guys make consoles and games to make money, and when they make money, we get more games! 



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Seece on 04 February 2011
scapegoatsqueal said:
Seece said:
psrock said:

I love this thread. When can we expect an update Seece?

Soon


Update it with SEGA's profits though the 2000-2010 decade too! I'd like to know if I should keep this Dreamcast 2 pre-order money or not

No sega are irrelevent, and they're not coming back to the HW race ...