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RolStoppable said:
Rainbird said:

Yeah, marketshare was basically the measure I was using. And even if Nintendo make a killing from the 3DS, I doubt they'll be happy to lose marketshare, and especially to strategies revolving around smartphones, since it may mean that Nintendo's own strategy is becoming obsolete.

And I agree about the games, but I think there will be sort of a duality to it. Despite the rampant piracy, the PSP still manages to have some high selling games, so I don't think the big games are going anywhere, there's just going to be a more clear distinction of what makes a $50 game and a $5 game. Some games that fit in the big price range earlier probably won't anymore because they're too reminiscent of the small games. But you'll still have the big sellers that do well.

I don't think Nintendo would be worried too much, if gaming on other devices grows while their own business remains healthy as well. A good and recent example would be Nintendo losing about 30 % of the handheld gaming marketshare from the GBA generation to the DS generation, but absolutely everyone (including Nintendo) would say that the DS was still a bigger success than the GBA.

Basically, growth of other sectors is only worrisome, if it comes at the expense of Nintendo.

If you consider them as a player in the overall handheld game market, if the market size was say 100 and they controlled 80 points of that market with the GBA they had a dominant share of a reasonable size market. If that market grows to 300 points and they only control 180 they've seen massive growth but the rest of the market has seen even greater growth. Arguably that growth counts against share they could have had in a larger market even though their absolute profit/unit sales numbers are still increasing. Since most of the sales of the PSP and DS are now legacy sales we won't know how the new competition from handhelds has effected their entire userbase until it comes time for them to ask them to migrate to a new platform.



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Raze said:

I only doubt it because Sony went with 3G technology here, which is very slow. With many phones emerging with 4G, they're already making the NGS somewhat obsolete.

In regards to smartphones vs both NGS and 3DS, smartphones lag behind game depth. Sure, if you want to play simple games, they're great (minus for being a major battery drain), but if you want a game with depth, there's no competition against both the Sony and Nintendo portables.

I think Nintendo's biggest weak spot will be if people react poorly to the 3D graphics, and they've already planned for such issues with a 3D kill switch.

I think it'll come down to price really, especially as the world economies continue to falter.

lol there is no 4G, at least not in america. It is no where and won't be widespread for years to come.



The smart phone vs handheld console argument is really starting to get to me.. They are two completely different devices with two completely different markets. Smart phones are NOT gaming systems.

It is like comparing PCs to home consoles.



stopstopp said:
Raze said:

I only doubt it because Sony went with 3G technology here, which is very slow. With many phones emerging with 4G, they're already making the NGS somewhat obsolete.

In regards to smartphones vs both NGS and 3DS, smartphones lag behind game depth. Sure, if you want to play simple games, they're great (minus for being a major battery drain), but if you want a game with depth, there's no competition against both the Sony and Nintendo portables.

I think Nintendo's biggest weak spot will be if people react poorly to the 3D graphics, and they've already planned for such issues with a 3D kill switch.

I think it'll come down to price really, especially as the world economies continue to falter.

lol there is no 4G, at least not in america. It is no where and won't be widespread for years to come.


My phone disagrees otherwise. Im rocking a very fast 4G connection in the NYC/NJ metro area.



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Raze said:
stopstopp said:
Raze said:

I only doubt it because Sony went with 3G technology here, which is very slow. With many phones emerging with 4G, they're already making the NGS somewhat obsolete.

In regards to smartphones vs both NGS and 3DS, smartphones lag behind game depth. Sure, if you want to play simple games, they're great (minus for being a major battery drain), but if you want a game with depth, there's no competition against both the Sony and Nintendo portables.

I think Nintendo's biggest weak spot will be if people react poorly to the 3D graphics, and they've already planned for such issues with a 3D kill switch.

I think it'll come down to price really, especially as the world economies continue to falter.

lol there is no 4G, at least not in america. It is no where and won't be widespread for years to come.


My phone disagrees otherwise. Im rocking a very fast 4G connection in the NYC/NJ metro area.

NYC is the biggest city in the US, of course it will have it first. But it really isn't that widespread.



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stopstopp said:
Raze said:
stopstopp said:
Raze said:

I only doubt it because Sony went with 3G technology here, which is very slow. With many phones emerging with 4G, they're already making the NGS somewhat obsolete.

In regards to smartphones vs both NGS and 3DS, smartphones lag behind game depth. Sure, if you want to play simple games, they're great (minus for being a major battery drain), but if you want a game with depth, there's no competition against both the Sony and Nintendo portables.

I think Nintendo's biggest weak spot will be if people react poorly to the 3D graphics, and they've already planned for such issues with a 3D kill switch.

I think it'll come down to price really, especially as the world economies continue to falter.

lol there is no 4G, at least not in america. It is no where and won't be widespread for years to come.


My phone disagrees otherwise. Im rocking a very fast 4G connection in the NYC/NJ metro area.

NYC is the biggest city in the US, of course it will have it first. But it really isn't that widespread.

True but, you saidthere is no 4g anywhere in america, which is inaccurate. The big cities have it. Yes, its not everywhere people live, but give it a year or so, it came out last year. Sprint, Verizon and AT&T wouldnt be selling 4G phones if the support system wasn't expanding at a reasonable rate. By the end of 2012, if we're not all dead, 4G will be pretty standard.



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