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At the very least Nintendo has one more big Christmas left. With the success of the Wii Nintendo will have lots of research and development money to make yet another console. Hence they will have a big Christmas that year. The trend indicates that the Wii is probably going to have a really big 08. Maybe not record setting, but they will have sold more Wiis than Gamecubes sometime in 08. Just an opinion.



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Smooth Criminal said:
I honestly have to say that after this holiday season, the Wii will not see HUGE numbers like it has been seeing.
The PS3 has some HUGE games for 2008 and I honestly believe it will be the year PS3 will be dominant. It will be catching up and I could easily see 12-14 million by the end of the first half of the new year.
Gran Turismo 5, GTA4, Killzone 2 and oh yeah...MGS4 should all help out nicely. The PS3 will finally have those A+++ titles.

Final Fantasy XIII and FFvXIII will be HUGE but who knows really when those games are coming out. Square seems to be taking their sweet time with those and I have a feeling it will be worth the wait.

I honestly have to say that the logic of "these big games will push this system through the roof" is bogus. Yes, those titles will help sell the PS3. Just like MarioKart and SSB:B will help the wii break the ceiling it's been stuck at. Just like Halo 3 pushed the 360 above the Wii. Yes those are big games. But every console has them. But that doesn't mean everyone who played the last FF will get a PS3 just for the new one. Heck, I love the GTA games, but I didn't buy a PS2 so that I could play them, I would go over to someone else's house and mess around with their saved games (obviously I didn't save it when I was done).

Some people say that the graphics will win out in the long run. Didn't help the GameCube or the Xbox. If graphics really matter, why didn't they make FFXI for the Xbox or the GameCube? Both were more powerful than the PS2. If graphics were "the selling point" then yes, the Xbox or GameCube would have won the last gen. But they didn't. Want to know why? Userbase. And who makes up the majority of the userbase...

Casuals. Yes. It's true. Crazy as it sounds. No, these casuals don't play video games 24/7. But yes, they do play video games (your FF, MGS, Halos, Zelda, etc). They just don't play them as much. Perhaps they never even beat them. But they buy a game because it looks good and they have the console. That's why SE released FFXI for the PS2. Because even though there's SO MANY CASUALS (oh no..), and the graphics might not be as great (oh no...) more people will buy the game.

Now why do casuals own a console? Mostly, it's cheaper. They dont' really care about gadgets and all that. They probably don't know what HD is, and a lot of them probably cant afford the set up required to really take advantage of it.

Finally, whether you agree with me or not, if you dont want Nintendo to destroy your "hardcore gaming", then each console won't sell as well as the PS2, meaning we'll be contracting the industry instead of expanding it, which is not good. When that happens, then we should all be worried.



Smooth Criminal said:
I honestly have to say that after this holiday season, the Wii will not see HUGE numbers like it has been seeing.
The PS3 has some HUGE games for 2008 and I honestly believe it will be the year PS3 will be dominant. It will be catching up and I could easily see 12-14 million by the end of the first half of the new year.
Gran Turismo 5, GTA4, Killzone 2 and oh yeah...MGS4 should all help out nicely. The PS3 will finally have those A+++ titles.

Final Fantasy XIII and FFvXIII will be HUGE but who knows really when those games are coming out. Square seems to be taking their sweet time with those and I have a feeling it will be worth the wait.

 Noe of those game will expand the PS3 and 360 userbase much beyond what it already has because they appeal to the same group that already own it



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

I personally believe the Wii will have many more successful years and christmas periods although I do see the PS3 vastly improving next year. The 360 will slow but still sell admirably, to put it simply its good time to be a gaming company, developer or gamer.



Owner of Wii, DS and 360, planning on getting a PS3 when it's cheaper. Supporter of all consoles.

? ... a question like that doesn't even need a response.



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i saw the title of this thread and thought the thread could easily be

"could this be nintendo's first big x'mas?"

except then i realized last year people were saying the exact same things after its launch. deja vu!

not much has changed from last year to this... and not much can change in the next year. if you must talk about games, it's not like the Nintendo doesn't make games. if Halo, Bioshock, COD4, Half Life 2: Orange Box etc couldn't even touch Wii, I don't see how MGS, GTA, FF can possibly do so. it's not like those game will sell to the hordes snatching up Wiis to begin with. indeed, the games that appeal to the Wii crowd only start coming out in earnest in 2008: WiiFit in particular, along with titles like WiiMusic and Animal Crossing. and that's only what we know at this point. plus i'm ignoring SSBB and Mario Kart--the "hardcore" games, but still appeal to the "casuals". that's the genius of the strategy, and it's only going to keep manifesting itself in 2008.

as of end of 2007, Nintendo still has way too many tricks up its sleaves. price cut, different colors, different SKUs, etc. quite possibly, the wii doesn't even need a price cut--new SKUs and colors would be sufficient to sustain holiday 2008 demand.

yes, people will continue to want Wiis, just like people keep wanting DS's.



the Wii is an epidemic.

Hawk said:
@MikeB

Did I seriously see you explain that you don't believe graphics power is what makes good games? And then slam the Wii for being a cheap system and not having the specs to be able to do good games?

I never really slam the Wii, we bought one for my kid sister. It's not expensive and I prefer my sister to play cute games, me and my girlfriend enjoy playing Wii sports with her.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

It's just easier this way;

To the guys who quoted me: Good posts and good points. I really can't argue them but did ya REALLY have to ruin my momentum? Lol. I agree that the big games  for PS3 may not exactly push it as much as I'd like but c'mon...we need more people here supporting the PS3 because it's an awesome console. That was just my way of supporting the PS3 here in a positive attitude.

Yeah, I think ALL the consoles will enjoy a great 2008 but PS3 will start if off with a bang as MGS4 comes out in early March. So, I have high hopes for PS3 and truly do hope it can catch up.

Seriously, who cares which console wins. I just don't want to see PS3 fail and moreso, I want to see more people realizing that the PS3 isn't doing as bad as many would like to believe. 



End of Year predictions:

Wii | 17.5 million ----> 19.20 million as of new year

X360 | 16 million ----> 16.02 million as of new year

PS3 | 8.7 million -----> 8.86 million as of new year

DAMNN I really underestimated the freaking Wii - Sheaaat! 

 

Lifetime Sales

Wii | 60-80 million

X360 | 50-60 million

PS3 | 100+ million (I believe the PS3 will still be around when other NEW consoles arrive...there won't be a PS4 for quite some time.)

I didn't read all the posts here, but just commenting on the title.. Come on people, do you seriously believe Nintendo, who've been around since the 1800's, are gonna just disappear? Geez.


I find it funny, the more succesful Nintendo is and the more consoles, handhelds and games they sell, the more some -and I stress some- people seem to think they are just a fad and it's going downhill for them. Seriously, they're experiencing some sort of golden age, a succes their competitors can only dream of right now.

Cut them some slack. Geez.



 2008 Predictions:


Wii: 44 Million
Xbox360: 25 Million
PS3: 22 Million

DS: 90 Million
PSP: 37 Million

a big nooooo, people know what they want and they will get it