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I think Wii will drop to 15.9374374528452345% market share by the end of this year because of the HDTV penetration taking effect (Japan has cleary showed that), the PS3/Xbox360 price-cut (Wii is oh-so obviously selling because it's cheap) and the lack of quality titles on the Wii (see Metacritix.com, gamerankingz.com, iknowallz.com, hateforcasuals.net and waggleaway.org).

P.S: Another important factor is that everyone has lost faith in the Wii and it's future.



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CrazzyMan said:
Price alone isn't enough my friend, Wii has games everyone wants PS3 only has games for one or two people

WHAT GAMES i WANT ON Wii??? You are talking Bullshit.

All people are talking about KZ2, MGS4, Halo3, FFXIII. What Wii games want everyone???
Just looks at Metroid Prime 3 sales. EVERYONE??????????
All i know SSBB many people want, tah`ts all.
Even SMG want NOT everyone.

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Nintendo 1.06
Super Mario Galaxy Nintendo 4.55

While on PS3,
soem people want GT5,
OTHER GTA4,
OTHER MGS4,
OTHER KZ2 - R2,
OTHER FFXIII,
OTHER LBP,
and etc.

YOU must be BLIND, iof you THINK that everyone want Wii games and NOT PS3 games.

so Wii is a better game machine

Resistance ALONE in USA sold 1 mln. without ANY bundles with LESS userbase. So if MP3 better, WHY it sold WORSE??? EVERYONE? LOL.

@Fastrabbit09:
i was talking about $ from blu-ray DISC movie. Which ps3 user will probably buy, because he already have blu-ray player in ps3.
As i said before:
people usually don`t buy blu-ray player for one movie, but they can buy one movie, if they already own blu-ray player. =)

 I'm not referring to crazed sony fanboys, i'm referring to the mass market you know those millions who care nothing for MGS or DMC or FF.

 

Also you know Resistance sold because it was the only decent game for the PS3 at launch, so everyone bought it, on Wii there are a lot of good games instead of MP3, so there are a lot of choices, so you don't need to buy MP3, if you prefer there are casual games, and other hardcore games.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

I can't ensure this but the Wii will be the biggest console ever created by human being!!! I mean its code name wasn't wrong it is a real Revolution the real NextGen is by far The Nintendo Wii!!



CrazzyMan said:
Price alone isn't enough my friend, Wii has games everyone wants PS3 only has games for one or two people

WHAT GAMES i WANT ON Wii??? You are talking Bullshit.

All people are talking about KZ2, MGS4, Halo3, FFXIII. What Wii games want everyone???
Just looks at Metroid Prime 3 sales. EVERYONE??????????
All i know SSBB many people want, tah`ts all.
Even SMG want NOT everyone.

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Nintendo 1.06
Super Mario Galaxy Nintendo 4.55

While on PS3,
soem people want GT5,
OTHER GTA4,
OTHER MGS4,
OTHER KZ2 - R2,
OTHER FFXIII,
OTHER LBP,
and etc.

YOU must be BLIND, iof you THINK that everyone want Wii games and NOT PS3 games.

so Wii is a better game machine

Resistance ALONE in USA sold 1 mln. without ANY bundles with LESS userbase. So if MP3 better, WHY it sold WORSE??? EVERYONE? LOL.

@Fastrabbit09:
i was talking about $ from blu-ray DISC movie. Which ps3 user will probably buy, because he already have blu-ray player in ps3.
As i said before:
people usually don`t buy blu-ray player for one movie, but they can buy one movie, if they already own blu-ray player. =)

 Games like Brain Age, Nintendogs and WiiFit appeal to a MUCH larger market than FFXIII or MGS4 which only appeal to the traditional gamer market.  As you can seel from Aidman's post Nintendogs is already in the top 10 all-time best sellers and it's still consistantly in the top 20 if not 10 every week.  Brain Age/Academy titles similarly do extremely well even years after release.  WiiFit will likely have similar legs.

Within 2-3 years the weekly top ten will be dominated with 8-9 old Wii/DS titles and whatever major title just launched on PS3/360 that week. 



 

brute said:
Fastrabbit09 said:
the only 'feature' casuals and non-gamers care about is the wiimote and wii sports

wii will only increase market share this year and the next and the next


i think it will only increase this year and the next then stop because i dont think it ca always sell 60-65% of the market share


why can't it?

 ps2 had over 60% last gen

 wii reaches a larger audience...again, it can reach people that ps3/360 can't even think about touching

 

 



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
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@Gamerace:

So you think,
That ALL 15 mln. people who bought GTA3 on PS2 also BOUGHT GT3? You must be kidding right?
Or ALL 8 mln. FFX buyers were fans of GT3 and GTA3?
What about those 5,5 MGS2 buyers?

Since when all these game buying SAME people???
GTA3+GT3+MGS2+FFX = 43 mln. alone. And if there like 8 mln. people which bought several games, there are still 35 mln. USER BASE. You must be BLIND to think, that all 15 mln. people who bough GTA3, bought GT3, FFX and MGS2.

Nintendo games alone appeal to BIG casual base, BUT Sony games appeal to BIG variety of people.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

i'm quite sure there is more than 8mil overlap in those 43mil game sales

but yeah, not even close to all who bought one bought the others

also, since when are those games made by Sony?



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp
Avinash_Tyagi said:
CrazzyMan said:
Hey if they are willing to lose so much money then i'm certain nintendo will let them bleed themselves dry, then snatch up the full market when their shareholders scream bloody murder

@Avinash_Tyagi:

don`t forget EACH ps3 buyer is POTENTIAL blu-ray movie buyer = $ for Sony.
hint: people usually don`t buy blu-ray player for one movie, but they can buy one movie, if they already own blu-ray player. =)
+ PS3 already cost 400$ to produce. Don`t remember is that 40GB model cost that much or 80GB? =)

Anyway, 400$ to produce, 400$-500$ in USA and 400-500 euro(600-750$ in dollars) in Europe to sell.

I don`t know about M$, BUT Sony DEFINETELY is NOT going to bleed. =)

They are bleeding right now, so they will bleed then as well

 

By then other cheaper blu-ray players will be on the market taking away the PS3's big selling point


 Unlike Nintendo, Sony are not dependent on their games and console performing, they have other divisions. Sony's PS department is dwarfed by their; music department, hi-fi department, cellphone department and movie department. Their console could bleed into the next century without dragging them into bankrupcy as long as their other departments are among the biggest in the world.

Sony is one of the eldest hi-fi and audiovisual manufacturers in the world today, and among the 3-4 biggest at that. Joe average owns a lot of Sony products and uses them daily despite his not having a PS3, but you seem to ignore that so you can imply that Sony are financially weak and vulnerable. Grow up man, profile says 25, I think you added ten years (at least). 



KBG29 said:
Wii will loose market share this year. Their is no way it can keep up its pace when the PS3 and 360 continue to become more and more features, at lower and lower prices. At the end of this year (Ovtober) I expect all 3 companies to have their consoles set at the price for the holidays. The Wii will be the lowest at 179.99, followed by 199.99 360 Arcade - 249.99 Pro - 349.99 Elite, and the PS3 40GB at 299.99 - ???GB at 399.99. I can see how people this year could jump on the Wii with a 150 price gap between 360, and a 250 price gap between PS3, but with a 70 and 120 dollar gap the Wii will become less and less justifiable.

This is not to mention that PS3 also has the most highly anticepated titles coming out this year plus the added benefite of Blu-ray. And yes Blu-ray is a huge benefit. People, even the casual or J6P, or whatever you want to call them do understand value, and will know what Blu-ray is. I don't expect to be taken seriously becuase everyone seems to hate the PS3, Blu-ray, Memory Stick, Sony, Disney, and anything ever to do with Playstation for some reason. But the fact is the righting is on the wall, and unless Sony just completely commits suicider this year PS3 is going to gain major momentum.

1. If you think Wii will lose market share you didn't really pay attention last year. The first week Wii outsold PS3 and 360 combined by a fair margin. Not to mention that Nintendo's biggest games will arrive way before that of the PS3.

2. Do you think that Sony can lower the price with $ 100,-? I think Sony will have a tough time convincing shareholders that the enormous losses are worth it. Sony won't make their fsical year prediction of 11 M PS3's sold by far. Lowering the price will add to SCE's losses, which affects the mothercompany.

3. If the Wii's only selling point was the price it wouldn't have sold at all. No one pays $250 for a useless item. People bought the Wii because they like it. No matter how close the price of PS3 gets to Wii's, the Wii will still be the better sold machine. As became clear this year and in previous generations: Graphics are not determining in console-wars. People want the console that they like most, has most games. You sound as if anyone who bought a Wii rather would have bought a PS3, but couldn't afford it. Of course his isn't true. People saw innovation, something new, something they had fun with and wanted it in masses. Nintendo can't even supply enough, despite being the fastest selling console ever. This won't change as PS3 gets cheaper.

4. The PS3 line-up is absolutely amazing, you're right about that. Though I have to say that WiiFit, MarioKart and Brawl will probably sell a lot more combined then Sony's big 3. It's even very questionable if 2 of those 3 arrive in 2008, let alone all 3. Furthermore Nintendo (and Microsoft) haven't shown a lot for the rest of 2008 because they don't have to, they have enough great games that people can play NOW. Sony needs to focus on future games (as far away as 2009) to sell PS3's with the promise of great games.



Wii will lose a little market share this year. NTDOY still has not demonstrated willingness to increase production. Limiting its growth potential.

PS3 will gain marketshare because it IS the most future-proof BluRay player on the market. Few dedicated players will get the firmware refreshes required for profile 2.0 and further. PS3 will and it's doubtful that any BD player that's price competitive with PS3 will. With BD effectively winning the HD gen of video players, PS3 stands most to gain from this. The only limiting factor to this will be marketing.

360 will get the most 3rd party AAA titles again. Even if it won't be 360 exclusive, but it will be first developed for 360 with the top talent. PS3 will be 2nd tier. This is the way that the resources were aligned in 2007. 2008 will bear fruit to the effort reallocation. Of course, 1st party studios will still develop exclusives for their respective consoles. Viral nature of XBL Achievements will continue to grow the game sales. Tho console sales will lag comparatively

Wii will continue to get shovelware. Few gems will still come from NTDOY, but virtually all 3rd parties will still treat Wii as an afterthought. Hopefully, an original third party game will shine (saleswise) in 2008, bringing 3rd party notice to Wii potential but will be too late to capitalize in 2008