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Will the Wii end 2008 with >= 50% market share?

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RolStoppable said:
fkusumot said:


By any chance, did you steal this graph out of Pachter's brief case?

 LMFAO



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Hey if they are willing to lose so much money then i'm certain nintendo will let them bleed themselves dry, then snatch up the full market when their shareholders scream bloody murder

@Avinash_Tyagi:

don`t forget EACH ps3 buyer is POTENTIAL blu-ray movie buyer = $ for Sony.
hint: people usually don`t buy blu-ray player for one movie, but they can buy one movie, if they already own blu-ray player. =)
+ PS3 already cost 400$ to produce. Don`t remember is that 40GB model cost that much or 80GB? =)

Anyway, 400$ to produce, 400$-500$ in USA and 400-500 euro(600-750$ in dollars) in Europe to sell.

I don`t know about M$, BUT Sony DEFINETELY is NOT going to bleed. =)



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

I think it is very possible for Wii to get 50% market share at some point in 2008. It is impossible to tell what Wii sales will be this year based on last year because it was supply constrained the whole year.



CrazzyMan said:
Hey if they are willing to lose so much money then i'm certain nintendo will let them bleed themselves dry, then snatch up the full market when their shareholders scream bloody murder

@Avinash_Tyagi:

don`t forget EACH ps3 buyer is POTENTIAL blu-ray movie buyer = $ for Sony.
hint: people usually don`t buy blu-ray player for one movie, but they can buy one movie, if they already own blu-ray player. =)
+ PS3 already cost 400$ to produce. Don`t remember is that 40GB model cost that much or 80GB? =)

Anyway, 400$ to produce, 400$-500$ in USA and 400-500 euro(600-750$ in dollars) in Europe to sell.

I don`t know about M$, BUT Sony DEFINETELY is NOT going to bleed. =)

 They are bleeding right now, so they will bleed then as well

 

By then other cheaper blu-ray players will be on the market taking away the PS3's big selling point 



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

They are bleeding right now, so they will bleed then as well
Do you have any proof?

By then other cheaper blu-ray players will be on the market taking away the PS3's big selling point
How many of them play games?
I mean, FAMILY - kids play games on PS3, parents watch HD movied on PS3. Everone happy. Do you have better alternative FOR FAMILY? =))



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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CrazzyMan said:

Anyway, 400$ to produce, 400$-500$ in USA and 400-500 euro(600-750$ in dollars) in Europe to sell.

When are people going to stop repeating this myth? The price in Europe includes taxes and recycling fees, which by themselves are enough to bring the true price (i.e. what Sony receives) down to about 320 € or $470. I'm not even considering other possible taxes or retailer charges.

Add in the fact that distributing consoles in Europe is more expensive, and you don't end up very far from what they make in the USA.

 



In case you care, I'm NJ5, my account is not working so I'm using this one temporarily.

CrazzyMan said:
They are bleeding right now, so they will bleed then as well
Do you have any proof?

By then other cheaper blu-ray players will be on the market taking away the PS3's big selling point
How many of them play games?
I mean, FAMILY - kids play games on PS3, parents watch HD movied on PS3. Everone happy. Do you have better alternative FOR FAMILY? =))

 KAz saying that they wouldn't be in the black until later in 2008

Yup a Wii and a cheap blu-ray, you got the games that everyone wants and the movies, its better 



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

@NJ5Test:

SO the PRICE in USA DON`T include taxes and recycling fees???
So how much Sony make or lose on PS3 in Europe selling it for 500 euro? And how much Sony make or lose on PS3 in Usa selling ps3 for 500$?

KAz saying that they wouldn't be in the black until later in 2008

so, what about ps3 cost cutting? This now don`t effect his words?

Yup a Wii and a cheap blu-ray, you got the games that everyone wants and the movies, its better

250$ for wii + how much cheap blu-ray cost with quality on pair with PS3? 150$? since when? on amazon price is 300-400$. So 550$-650$ is better deal? LOL.
by the way, one device is more comfortable, then 2. It takes less place.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

CrazzyMan said:
@NJ5Test:

SO the PRICE in USA DON`T include taxes and recycling fees???
So how much Sony make or lose on PS3 in Europe selling it for 500 euro? And how much Sony make or lose on PS3 in Usa selling ps3 for 500$?

KAz saying that they wouldn't be in the black until later in 2008

so, what about ps3 cost cutting? This now don`t effect his words?

Yup a Wii and a cheap blu-ray, you got the games that everyone wants and the movies, its better

250$ for wii + how much cheap blu-ray cost with quality on pair with PS3? 150$? since when? on amazon price is 300-400$. So 550$-650$ is better deal? LOL.
by the way, one device is more comfortable, then 2. It takes less place.

 His words took those into account.

 

 Price alone isn't enough my friend, Wii has games everyone wants PS3 only has games for one or two people, so Wii is a better game machine, and so its better to get two things which do each thing really well, rather on one which does poor gaming.  not to mention who knows if Wii won't have a price drop by then



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

crazy,

sony already makes money on every dvd sold...they are in this 'war' to protect that; they don't care if consumers never upgrade cause then they keep making money on dvds...they just don't want hddvd to win...so a ps3 sale -> bluray movie purchase doesn't necessarily = $$ for sony cause they woulda gotten money for a dvd purchase instead anyway



Bets:Missed by 420k I bet leo-j vg$500 that wii will sell 31 million by 7/31/08.  Sorry, I don't think he has enough vg$ to make it with all of u that wish you could. Hit, with room to spare I bet kingofwale a 1-week ban that wii Americas ltd sales>360 Americas ltd sales as of the numbers for week ending 7/05/08 (using vgchartz homepage #s)

Predictions:

Wii will sell 18-20mil by 12/31/07  CHECKWii will sell 45mil+ WW by 12/31/08Wii will surpass PS2 sales WW by 11/17/11 (5yr anniversary)Wii Fit will hit 12mil sales in 2009MKWii+SSBB+Wii Fit+SMG > 50 mil sales by 2010 > gta4+mgs+gt5+ff13+haze+lbp