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MrT-Tar said:
raptors11 said:

The only thing that bothers me about Nintendo is they don't make new IP's anymore and Nintendo gamers seem to not care at all. Its just been Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Metroid, etc. forever. 

I don't get how Nintendo fans can not only accept this but defend them also. 


Wii...

Nintendogs

Brain Training

Xenoblade

Soma Bringer

Tomodachi Collection

Big Brain Academy

Art Academy

Art Style

Style Boutique

Hotel Dusk/Last Window

Endless Ocean

Make 10

Flingsmash

Jam with the Band

Elite Beat Agents/ Ouenden

Electroplankton

Jet Impulse

 

 

Yeah, totally no new IPs...

How many of those are actually good? I'm talking good new IP's like Mario/Zelda quality.



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Just like the previous posts,

The Nintendo hate has been going on previously to the Wii.

I remember If you like Nintendo in the Gamecube era, you only like kiddy stuff.The "hardcore" gamer abandoned Nintendo long ago. I remember the Magazines bashing Nintendo for every decision they made.(from the look of Wind Waker, to why Resident Evil series was an exclusive for the "kiddy" console)

What they did in this generation was focusing efforts in another audience, and it works perfectly for them. Satisfied their "Hardcore" Nintendo fans, and this new audience that Microsoft, and Sony are trying to reach now .



raptors11 said:
MrT-Tar said:
raptors11 said:

The only thing that bothers me about Nintendo is they don't make new IP's anymore and Nintendo gamers seem to not care at all. Its just been Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Metroid, etc. forever. 

I don't get how Nintendo fans can not only accept this but defend them also. 


Wii...

Nintendogs

Brain Training

Xenoblade

Soma Bringer

Tomodachi Collection

Big Brain Academy

Art Academy

Art Style

Style Boutique

Hotel Dusk/Last Window

Endless Ocean

Make 10

Flingsmash

Jam with the Band

Elite Beat Agents/ Ouenden

Electroplankton

Jet Impulse

 

 

Yeah, totally no new IPs...

How many of those are actually good? I'm talking good new IP's like Mario/Zelda quality.

Plenty of them are really really good games, but they are not as successful as Mario/Zelda. (Excluding Wii series, and Nintendogs, Brain Age, which are incredibly popular)



Doobie_wop said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Torillian said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
Doobie_wop said:

I hate the love Nintendo gets, I'm cool like that.


Hrm... good for you...?

Not exactly sure how positive vibes harm anyone lol 


doesn't have to be harmful to be irritating.  I too dislike some of the Ninty love where Nintendo just can do no wrong, Wii games can't possibly lose money because they only cost a dream and a unicorn fart, and they're the only ones in the current generation of consoles.   It's like that Middle School girl writing Jenny Miyamoto in her notebook and dotting the i's with hearts kind of love.  annoying.


Uh huh... And mindless people that seem to follow what corporate PR says as truth gets on my nerves too but you don't see me saying that in threads whenever there's a bunch of spin involved... honestly though there's two sides of that story being all the needless/unprofessional hate and maybe if people weren't so hateful then we'd have fewer people adamantly and annoyingly defending them eh?

Honestly what you states is annoying of all fans not just Nintendo fans... its a trait they all share, ALL OF THEM.  You might as well be just stating you don't like fans, cause guess what die hard star wars fans will defend the new trilogy, die hard Microsoft fans will defend XBL pricing and console failures, Sony fans will defend going from the top of sales to the bottom and losing billions of dollars in the process, and Nintendo fans will defend some of Nintendo's odd choices...

Nintendo fans defend things that directly affects their gaming though. Sony fans may defend some of Sony's corporate choices like removing Linux or they may defend the sales of a certain quarter, but I haven't seen many of them defending Sony's line-up in 2007 or the GT5 delays or the lack of party chat. Everyone would complain and as time went on, Sony began to fix those problems.

The majority of the negative things that come up involving Nintendo is defended to the point of irrationality. Crappy online service? Screw online gaming. Achievements? Screw Achievements. Sparse line-up? Nintendo are game developing GODS! Region locking, who needs imported games? Third Party support? Third Parties suck monkey balls and we don't need their garbage. HD console? Hahaha, I enjoy jaggies. Game breaking bug that requires you to send your console or SD card to Kyoto? We don't need patches or updates. Waggle added unnecessarily? Thank God, my wrist needed a work out. Europe getting games late? Who cares about Europe?

The only recent issue that I've seen that's been universally attacked is the one that involves Japanese Wii games being kept within Japan without any sort of word on localization. Lots of Wii fans are pissed, but I'm not seeing many of them voicing their opinion to Nintendo that this issue is bothering them and that they want it fixed, they just seem to mumble about them on forums. The same can't be said for Sony fans who send out constant demands on a weekly basis directly to Sony and actually try and force info out of the community managers on the Sony sites. 

I don't hate people, I just hate when people are screwed out of things that they should have in this day and age of gaming. Most of the things I listed can be easily implemented into the Wii or any future Nintendo device, but a lot of them will go unnoticed or will be lacklustre because Nintendo thinks that creating Wii Science is more important than creating a decent online network. 

This was much longer than I wanted it to be, but I'm bored and I keep dying in Persona 4, so I'm also a little agitated. Once again, I don't intend to offend anyone and I may be wrong about some things, but I'd rather be educated on what I've said wrong and none of it was with intention to harm. 


You wrote a lot only for me to get a few lines in and already see something wrong.

All fans do it, not just Nintendo fans, not just Sony fans, not just fans of some terrible movies like the Lords of the Rings trilogy (yes I went there!), they ALL defend their likes.  

You want to say how Sony fans don't defend things that are bad for their gaming choices but they defended things like Lair, Haze, Heavenly Sword, God of War, PSP, Blu-Ray, the price of consoles and games... all of which affects their gaming and that was just a quick list off the top of my head.

ALL OF THEM DO IT, period.



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raptors11 said:
MrT-Tar said:
raptors11 said:

The only thing that bothers me about Nintendo is they don't make new IP's anymore and Nintendo gamers seem to not care at all. Its just been Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Metroid, etc. forever. 

I don't get how Nintendo fans can not only accept this but defend them also. 


Wii...

Nintendogs

Brain Training

Xenoblade

Soma Bringer

Tomodachi Collection

Big Brain Academy

Art Academy

Art Style

Style Boutique

Hotel Dusk/Last Window

Endless Ocean

Make 10

Flingsmash

Jam with the Band

Elite Beat Agents/ Ouenden

Electroplankton

Jet Impulse

 

 

Yeah, totally no new IPs...

How many of those are actually good? I'm talking good new IP's like Mario/Zelda quality.


....and have they seen the light of day outside Japan?

I don't think Nintendo is doomed or any of that stuff. However I hate on Nintendo sometimes because of their arrogance.



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RolStoppable said:

Why is it so much of a problem to flat out say "I don't like Nintendo and I hope they fail"? Instead those people are looking for every possible reason to have a "legit" excuse to not buy a Nintendo product, while the very same things would not be a problem when buying a competitor's product. We have seen this once again in effect with the 3DS just recently.

This. Sometimes, people think they're smart with poors excuses. If you don't like, just say; don't need to excuse.



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Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

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raptors11 said:

How many of those are actually good? I'm talking good new IP's like Mario/Zelda quality.

Are you asking good quality or the same as Mario or Zelda? Becuase there isn't a new IP with the same quality as these games.



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


RolStoppable said:
Wagram said:

....and have they seen the light of day outside Japan?

I don't think Nintendo is doomed or any of that stuff. However I hate on Nintendo sometimes because of their arrogance.

And the other times?


Well if your talking about Mario, then you should know why.



Well done OP you create this thread in order to enjoy more of that hate you love so much



Why don't you make like a tree and get out of here?

Wagram said:
raptors11 said:
MrT-Tar said:
raptors11 said:

The only thing that bothers me about Nintendo is they don't make new IP's anymore and Nintendo gamers seem to not care at all. Its just been Mario, Zelda, Donkey Kong, Metroid, etc. forever. 

I don't get how Nintendo fans can not only accept this but defend them also. 


Wii...

Nintendogs

Brain Training

Xenoblade

Disaster DoC

Soma Bringer

Tomodachi Collection

Big Brain Academy

Art Academy

Art Style

Style Boutique

Hotel Dusk/Last Window

Endless Ocean

Make 10

Flingsmash

Jam with the Band

Elite Beat Agents/ Ouenden

Electroplankton

Jet Impulse

 

 

Yeah, totally no new IPs...

How many of those are actually good? I'm talking good new IP's like Mario/Zelda quality.


....and have they seen the light of day outside Japan?

I don't think Nintendo is doomed or any of that stuff. However I hate on Nintendo sometimes because of their arrogance.

Only Soma Bringer, Xenoblade (though I sure it will be localised in time), Jet impulse and Tomodachi Collection of my list are Japan only.

And for those four, does it matter that they haven't been localised?  A new IP is a new IP even if it is Japan only.