I wonder what this guy will say if the next Wii has achievements.

yea im glad they take this stance, i hate people people who like achievements/trophies

The problem with offering real life rewards for virtual achievements is it any exploits in the achievement system will lead to actual finanical exploitation. They'res tons of people on my gamercard net with over half a million unaccounted gamer score, and taking the time to seperate all the cheaters would probably also be costly.

Even without hackers and such, they'd have to give a dollar worth of points to everyone who played Avatar: The Burning Earth or Peter Jackson's King Kong, and every other easy game would just cost them more money in free point rewards. With several million users, it would add up.

The coin pedometer however, sounds more akin to the PokeWalker or the rest system from World of Warcraft. It's a way for people who don't play often to make some progress while not actually playing the game. I'm fairly confident a lot of these in-game unlockables will also be obtainable through in-game means as well, and the coins will just be a short cut. This way people who aren't that great at games can eventually enjoy all the hidden stages, charaters, etc too.

The Birth of an Assassin

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/assassins-creed-2/achievement/34004-The-Birth-of-an-Assassin.html

Is there a way to not get this? I mean, can Ezio die before born?

True, though you could substitute in semi-worthless content that they charge money for, like Avatar clothing and such, or certain kinds of low-end DLC (horse-armor or already-on-the-disc class)

Hating people because of what they like or don't like is kinda harsh, you know!

Before playing Donkey Kong Country Returns I might have answered differently but getting the KONG letters, all the puzzle pieces and Gold/ Shiny Gold in every stage is an absolute blast :)

The reason I actually bothered is because of how many people I know who got the game too, this is the first time so many of my friends are playing the game at the same time - I wouldn't have bothered perfecting every stage if I couldn't brag about it - - - And I'm thankful I did, It was super fun and it prolonged the game x10 = huge value while still being a lot of fun - - - I usually never play a game twice but I do like to 100% games, it's just that I don't see much point if you can't show anybody (aka brag about it)

I'd love it if Nintendo's online was more like X360's (I play my friend's system sometimes) - - I wouldn't have to wait until me and my friends all play at the same time, there would be a huge online community - - - I agree with everybody that X360's online >>>>>>> Nintendo's (can anyone honestly say otherwise?) - - - - - The reason I don't go out and actually get a 360 is cuz there aren't enough games that appeal to me, even with better online

i totally agree with Nintendo, their achievements are actually into the game

Yeah, pretty much this

Also, some games from Nintendo DO have some acheivements (Wii Sports Resort, Monster Hunter Tri) but these are actually things that test the quality of the player, not just "fire 1,000,000 bullets" or "complete Chapter 7"

Seriously, most acheivements are just in the story for completing missions...

Well there are achievements/trophies that are just ridiculously tedious grinds, such trophies should have no place in any games.The good trophies are of the sort that have you doing challenging things that are perhaps a bit more difficult, but fun to do.

Uncharted: X number of kills with Y weapon is tedious. Hunting out all the treasures is fun.

Naruto Shippune UNH2: Fighting with all 40 characters 30 times is a stupid grind, which merely encourages the gamer to find a way to get through it in the shorte time possible, which has the effect of making a game less enjoyable, the opposite, I would have thought, of what trophies/achievements are meant for. Winning X number of online fights is fun.