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misteromar mk4 on 17 December 2007
starcraft said:
You just openly stated that no muslim you have ever met a muslim that sees any value in an Israeli Jew. I personally know some Australian-muslims that think differently. Whilst they do not like much of what has happened in Palastine, they acknowledge that it is not all caused by jews and that it does not detract from the value of jews as human beings.

Take your anti-western views and spout them somewhere they are wanted. Given you are openly stating that Muslims are intolerant people, im sure a lot of the highly-tolerant muslims I know would dislike you even more than I do.

 This the hypocrisy I talk about, You accuse me of intolerance and you hate me because I see things different to you, How is this not intolerance? How is what you say any different to what I say?

 Show me a Muslim that suports Israel and I will give you a mountian of gold. 



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GooseGaws on 17 December 2007
Kasz216 said:
It wouldn't sell in the US. Therefore it won't happen, as the US is the most important games market. Best guess for it happening is basically "Alternate reality" world where you are an insurgent causing trouble in communist russian cities where the USSR won. Pretty sure there was a game like that actually.

Are you talking about Freedom Fighters?



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kirby007 on 17 December 2007

anyway i would like too see instead of fps => sps



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Sqrl on 17 December 2007
misteromar mk4 said:
starcraft said:
You just openly stated that no muslim you have ever met a muslim that sees any value in an Israeli Jew. I personally know some Australian-muslims that think differently. Whilst they do not like much of what has happened in Palastine, they acknowledge that it is not all caused by jews and that it does not detract from the value of jews as human beings.

Take your anti-western views and spout them somewhere they are wanted. Given you are openly stating that Muslims are intolerant people, im sure a lot of the highly-tolerant muslims I know would dislike you even more than I do.

This the hypocrisy I talk about, You accuse me of intolerance and you hate me because I see things different to you, How is this not intolerance? How is what you say any different to what I say?

Show me a Muslim that suports Israel and I will give you a mountian of gold.


Tolerant people shouldn't tolerate intolerance.  That doesn't make them hypocrites. However tolerating intolerance would be hypocracy.  

Asking for your intolerance to be tolerated by tolerant people is hypocracy. As you would not afford the same to others.

Not a tough concept. 

 
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starcraft on 17 December 2007
misteromar mk4 said:
starcraft said:
You just openly stated that no muslim you have ever met a muslim that sees any value in an Israeli Jew. I personally know some Australian-muslims that think differently. Whilst they do not like much of what has happened in Palastine, they acknowledge that it is not all caused by jews and that it does not detract from the value of jews as human beings.

Take your anti-western views and spout them somewhere they are wanted. Given you are openly stating that Muslims are intolerant people, im sure a lot of the highly-tolerant muslims I know would dislike you even more than I do.

This the hypocrisy I talk about, You accuse me of intolerance and you hate me because I see things different to you, How is this not intolerance? How is what you say any different to what I say?

Show me a Muslim that suports Israel and I will give you a mountian of gold.


 I did not say that I know muslims that support Israel.  I said that I know muslims that think Israeli's have value as human beings, as we all do.  I objected to your blanket statement that all muslims are as intolerant as you.  

And you ARE intolerant.  You didn't attack Israel, you attacked ISRAELI PEOPLE.  "As for Jews in Israel, I have never met another muslim that has the least kind thing to say about them."  If you truly believe that that was a tolerant view, I won't be calling the security hotline, I'll be calling the mental health helpline and sending them your way.



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misteromar mk4 on 17 December 2007

I still stand by my original intent for this thread, that it would be great to have fps war game and have to be a american. But of course this means "this guys a terrorist" .



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Sqrl on 17 December 2007
misteromar mk4 said:
I still stand by my original intent for this thread, that it would be great to have fps war game and have to be a american. But of course this means "this guys a terrorist" .


You wanted this when you posted the thread so don't go playing victim now.

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sinha on 17 December 2007
Mummelmann said:
sinha said:

Yeah Omar, if only you could play a game as Iraqi insurgents blowing up American soldiers, Palestinians killing Israeli soldiers, and Nazis ("the axis side") killing British and American soldiers, and maybe running a few concentration camps to eliminate any remaining Jews...

Pretty much any game where you could kill Americans and Jews would be totally awesome, right?

 


Ehm, excuse me, did you just compare the palestinians and Iraqi men who oppose invation to the nazi's?...

Wow... that's insightful.


Ehm, excuse ME, you should read Omar's comments in this thread. The three groups of people he would like to play in a video game are Iraqi insurgents killing American soldiers, Palestinians killing Israeli soldiers, and Nazis killing Allied soldiers.  I'm not the one saying that, HE IS.

There sure seems to be a theme developing between the three, and it's killing Jews and Americans.

And his response (12/17/07, 11:45) does not deny it, he attempts to explain it by saying that such attitudes towards Americans and Jews are common among muslims.

 



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starcraft on 17 December 2007
misteromar mk4 said:
It would be good to be killing americans as apposed to american killing other people.

There would be lots of good scenarios, for example you get set up a ambush an american convoy with ied's and kill as many possible


I believe you when you say you stand by the original premise of your thread, and everyone can see what it was by reading the text in bold.

You could easily have said you wanted one of the many conflicts that don't involve America to be the setting for an FPS game. You could easily have said you wanted to play from the perspective of a side opposing America without graphically detailing how enjoyable it would be to kill Americans in a manner exactly like AMERICANS ARE STILL DYING TODAY! You could easily have done all of this without later declaring in the thread that all Muslims hate Israeli Jews.

But you did none of that. As I said, your premise is highlighted in bold.

 



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misteromar mk4 on 17 December 2007
Sqrl said:
misteromar mk4 said:
I still stand by my original intent for this thread, that it would be great to have fps war game and have to be a american. But of course this means "this guys a terrorist" .


You wanted this when you posted the thread so don't go playing victim now.

 Sorry I forgot you could read peoples minds to determine their intention.

 I thought alot of european people may like to play these games as someone other than an american. The idea came to me becuase people getting sick of ww2 shooters, while I thought Im more sick of having to a american shooting people and would be nice to have balance of being somebody different.

 My only mistake was to get side tracked in responding to more political issue's. Also I got a bad rep against jewish ppls because of thread about "will usa invade Iran" where it was my opinion that the motivation was to protect israel.



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