You're not gonna get drafted for an Iraq War situation.  You'll be drafted for a WW 3.  If you're unfit for duty, you won't be allowed in the military anyway.  If WW 3 occurs and you refuse to fight, then I'll call you a coward, because if the country is at risk of being overrun, all men have a duty to fight. 

And why should women have to fight?  Be a man, if a women wants to fight so be it and if women are needed then maybe a draft, but if the men of the country can handle the war then women should not be forced to fight.  That's a real bitch thing to say.

There is honor in death.  You take a bullet for your wife, you die with honor.  The men who died in WW I and WW II died with honor because without their death, Nazi forces will have taken over the world.  I can see your point about the Iraq War but those people chose to fight and whether you agree with the war or not, they died with honor, doing what they thought was right. 

If you're talking about reading books about the US military, these things happen and suck and are dealt with, but they are few and far between.  Shitty things happen when you gather masses of people.  People die on Black Friday at Wal-mart when the doors open.  That happened once and isn't the norm but people over-dramatize it and act like it occurs everywhere.  Rape, innocent people dying, and children being murdered occur stateside, so do you honestly think a few idiots in the military won't do the same thing in countries they are fighting?  The military can't weed out all psychos no matter how hard it tries, but these occurrences aren't the norm. 

YOU are living in a childhood fantasy crafted by movies and patriotic ramblings.

Military fighting isn't 'good vs bad'- light vs dark star wars BS.

It's going into peoples homes, forcing information from them, bombing innocent civilian areas because of enemy bases nearby or because that's how they get their food, it's killing children should you be ordered to do so, and it's sick and wrong.

These aren't 'over-dramatized isolated incidents'. They're fact. They happen all the time in wars. Civilians are the FIRST objective to be attacked so they don't join the opposing army or provide food for them.

Nazi's taking over the world? Nazi's had no chance of doing that because they were fighting a 2 front war and Russia was on our side.

Honor in dying? No such thing. Your wife would grieve for your death, no? Wouldn't she feel guilty about it?

Look at Abraham Lincoln, when he was killed, his wife went crazy and was sent to a mental institution because she thought anyone emotionally close to her would die (Her husband died after she lost 3 sons in the war).

Want to know why schools don't tell you this? Because NO ONE wants fresh and able-bodied military resources to be anything but happy about partaking in war.

Also, to put it in the most simplest terms, since I'm sure most of you don't believe me.

War's definition: Organized Murder.

That's it. That's all. It's no different than gangs killing people. You just wear an honorary uniform to do it.

You're blaming Pol Pot's atrocities on... American bombs?

Wow, just wow. That dude was way up there on the batshit-crazy list. Nothing anyone did or didn't do would have change anything about that guy. He, like Stalin and Hitler, was just a bad guy. They exist, you know.

You're not gonna get drafted for an Iraq War situation.  You'll be drafted for a WW 3.  If you're unfit for duty, you won't be allowed in the military anyway.  If WW 3 occurs and you refuse to fight, then I'll call you a coward, because if the country is at risk of being overrun, all men have a duty to fight. 

And why should women have to fight?  Be a man, if a women wants to fight so be it and if women are needed then maybe a draft, but if the men of the country can handle the war then women should not be forced to fight.  That's a real bitch thing to say.

There is honor in death.  You take a bullet for your wife, you die with honor.  The men who died in WW I and WW II died with honor because without their death, Nazi forces will have taken over the world.  I can see your point about the Iraq War but those people chose to fight and whether you agree with the war or not, they died with honor, doing what they thought was right. 

If you're talking about reading books about the US military, these things happen and suck and are dealt with, but they are few and far between.  Shitty things happen when you gather masses of people.  People die on Black Friday at Wal-mart when the doors open.  That happened once and isn't the norm but people over-dramatize it and act like it occurs everywhere.  Rape, innocent people dying, and children being murdered occur stateside, so do you honestly think a few idiots in the military won't do the same thing in countries they are fighting?  The military can't weed out all psychos no matter how hard it tries, but these occurrences aren't the norm. 

This is the response I expected from you.  Rambling on and on with no real information.  So, if China(hypothetical) decides to take over the earth, should we let them, because if we fight back bad things will happen?  This is what happens when you don't think about the crap you a spewing.  It makes no sense. 

The allied forces attacking Germany had to happen.  You contradicted yourself pretty severely.  You say that Nazi's had no chance of taking over the world.  Why is that?  Because, GASP, people fought back.  If nobody fought back you would have never been born. 

With your ideals, I could get about 100 guys together and conquer the earth because war is murder so we shouldn't fight back.  Nobody fights back and kills me, we take over the world.  Glad people don't think like you.

As for honorable death, if you let your wife die and you could have saved her, you are a pathetic existence of a man.  I would rather die saving my loved ones than living the life of a coward and being treated as such.  A mourning wife is much better than a dead one.  Why can't you see that?  Because you don't think, you read some crap and believed.

You tell me I'm living a childhood fantasy.  Your most likely 17 or 18 so your still a child with distorted views of the world.  I guarantee that 5 years from now if you read this post again, you'll realize how wrong you are.  Know how I know this?  I used to be your age and said stupid stuff.  You'll grow smarter and wiser, and it's great.

I realize horrible things happen in wars and wish they wouldn't, but they are isolated incidents that aren't the norm, and these people get punished when they are caught.  Just because bad stuff happens, that doesn't mean you shouldn't fight.  The internet allows smut videos of people being murdered to be viewed by all, so by your logic, we should ban the internet.  Sounds ridiculous.

Now see I calmly I replied and expressed my viewpoints without looking like rabbling lunatic?  That's wisdom baby.

You're just using strawman and condescending insults. That's all you do. You haven't made any specific credible reasons on why I'm wrong. You just say I am.

They aren't isolated incidents, never have been, and you haven't provided any factual basis for any of your arguments. Then you insult me over a hypothetical situation about a dead wife, of which I gave you a actual historic event that happened to an American president as a counter argument.

You're not arguing anything. You just insult. It's ridiculous. I'll stop taking you seriously as that was clearly my mistake.

LOL, someone's been watching too much silly war movies (and is a misogynist too).

Where am I supporting any kind of restriction of others' freedom? Did we impede Japanese invasion in 1941? Aw, that was a real damned shame. Those poor Japanese were really just misunderstood.

And I'm willin' to wager that South Korea sure wishes we stayed out of their business and didn't "restrict their freedom" shortly thereafter.

While I'm at it, those Kuwaitis sure hate us, too.

Please do so, immediately.