Because every person drafted always goes off to war, right?

Because every person that ever joins the military gets a job killing someone else, right?

Because there will never, ever be a war that has a reason to have a side that is justified in defending itself, right?

I am against Iraq and Afghanistan. But do not forget, there are wars like WW2 that are fully justified for national defense, and the defense of our allies. Last I checked, the Japanese were pushing closer to your nation before we helped.

There are other ways to defend America, too. The National Guard can do a lot of domestic good, without always fighting in needless wars. Likewise, there are a lot of honorable countries that have compulsury military service that are very civil and do not fight needless wars (Switzerland would be a great example).

It's not false when they're being brought on Federal charges on it by a Congressional Jury.

Try actually reading about this information yourself before saying its all BS and that 'we're doing good'.

If you really think what I said is the ramblings of a conspiracy theorist then I'm sorry to say that you're living in a naive world view of things. This has all been confirmed information since 2007.

Check on this information yourself, look at the leaked pictures, watch the wikileaks video of American military personnel running over someone they just killed and laughing about it. This is very real, very incriminating, and horribly immoral.

I want no part in the military, any military, or anything remotely related to real life warfare. The events that happen are just too sick and horrible.

You're not gonna get drafted for an Iraq War situation.  You'll be drafted for a WW 3.  If you're unfit for duty, you won't be allowed in the military anyway.  If WW 3 occurs and you refuse to fight, then I'll call you a coward, because if the country is at risk of being overrun, all men have a duty to fight. 

And why should women have to fight?  Be a man, if a women wants to fight so be it and if women are needed then maybe a draft, but if the men of the country can handle the war then women should not be forced to fight.  That's a real bitch thing to say.

There is honor in death.  You take a bullet for your wife, you die with honor.  The men who died in WW I and WW II died with honor because without their death, Nazi forces will have taken over the world.  I can see your point about the Iraq War but those people chose to fight and whether you agree with the war or not, they died with honor, doing what they thought was right. 

If you're talking about reading books about the US military, these things happen and suck and are dealt with, but they are few and far between.  Shitty things happen when you gather masses of people.  People die on Black Friday at Wal-mart when the doors open.  That happened once and isn't the norm but people over-dramatize it and act like it occurs everywhere.  Rape, innocent people dying, and children being murdered occur stateside, so do you honestly think a few idiots in the military won't do the same thing in countries they are fighting?  The military can't weed out all psychos no matter how hard it tries, but these occurrences aren't the norm. 

Apparently everything I just said went over your head. Oh well.

YOU are living in a childhood fantasy crafted by movies and patriotic ramblings.

Military fighting isn't 'good vs bad'- light vs dark star wars BS.

It's going into peoples homes, forcing information from them, bombing innocent civilian areas because of enemy bases nearby or because that's how they get their food, it's killing children should you be ordered to do so, and it's sick and wrong.

These aren't 'over-dramatized isolated incidents'. They're fact. They happen all the time in wars. Civilians are the FIRST objective to be attacked so they don't join the opposing army or provide food for them.

Nazi's taking over the world? Nazi's had no chance of doing that because they were fighting a 2 front war and Russia was on our side.

Honor in dying? No such thing. Your wife would grieve for your death, no? Wouldn't she feel guilty about it?

Look at Abraham Lincoln, when he was killed, his wife went crazy and was sent to a mental institution because she thought anyone emotionally close to her would die (Her husband died after she lost 3 sons in the war).

Want to know why schools don't tell you this? Because NO ONE wants fresh and able-bodied military resources to be anything but happy about partaking in war.

Also, to put it in the most simplest terms, since I'm sure most of you don't believe me.

War's definition: Organized Murder.

That's it. That's all. It's no different than gangs killing people. You just wear an honorary uniform to do it.