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Michael-5 on 15 February 2011
scat398 said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:

i dont get it shipment figures say the gap is ~ 2.9 million

but VG chartz sales figures says the gap is ~ 3.9 million.

shouldn't sales and shipment difference be roughly the same or at max like ~ 3.4 million

360 has seen massive shortages in the last few months, but having trouble meeting demands.

You shouldn't base your opinions on the sales gap between consoles by units shipped as there are many factors that cause this value to be very very misleading.

well xbox is still raping in the US, and its always very close to ps3's numbers, so even if there were shortages. it just seems very odd that there would be more than a million more ps3's on selves than xbox's

MS is selling inventory as retailers receive shipments. They are temporarily unable to stock up to regular inventory levels. Retailers are stocked up with the appropriate number of PS3's.

Remember, the 360 shortages, just ended, there hasn't been time for retailers to stock up 360 consoles. 360 outsold the PS3 from Sept-December by about 1 million units, it doesn't make sence for the shipped difference to only change by 0.08 million units.

Keep in mind that there are several factors that play into the increased inventory gap.  The most important one being that Sony now ships to alot of countries the 360 doesn't, that increased base is always going to lead to a larger inventory gap, you can only be so streamlined.  Second, is the PS3 had lower than expected sales during the holiday season in the US, that lower sales figure should eventually result in lower shipment numbers in Sony's 4th quarter.  And finally, 360's sales surge in the US which resulted in a complete sell through of inventory for MS.  US retailers will be working to get that inventory back up this quarter so expect a larger than normal 1st quarter for MS shipments. 

 

So in the end a 1 million gap between the two is probably spot on, or atleast close enough for government work.

What you say just validates the 2.8 Gap, but I don't undertand how shipping to more countries affect shipment figures, but not units sold?

If Sony sells the same number of PS3's and MS does 360's, then more retailers only implies lower volume per store. Stores only stock inventory to meet demand, and maybe 20-30% threshold for unexpected increased demand. If one store doesn't sell too many units, then they ship back extra units, or exchange consoles between stores of high and low demand.

Either way, from what you say, it appears you still agree with me that the shipped gap will grow. So thank you for applying logic.



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UnknownFact on 14 November 2011
GoldenCannon said:

I think that the gap will close this year as the PS3 has tons of AAA exclusive games coming out comparing to MS of only 2-3. This will be the year the PS3 will shine with so many excellent games on the console there is no denying that alot of hardcore gamers will jump ship over to the PS3. I already know quite a few people already abandoned the xbox for the PS3 for this reason. The other reason would be the terrible hardware quality of xbox 360.




Turkish on 14 November 2011

This is the year people, it will finally happen, or in the first 6 months of 2012.



brendude13 on 14 November 2011

Can we restart this thread then?

I think the momentum from Kinect and the 360 slim has slowed down significantly, PS3 is looking to have a very strong year in 2012. If Sony can keep the price competitive and they advertise in America then the gap should close by Autumn 2012.



postofficebuddy on 14 November 2011

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NeoRatt on 14 November 2011
brendude13 said:
Can we restart this thread then?

I think the momentum from Kinect and the 360 slim has slowed down significantly, PS3 is looking to have a very strong year in 2012. If Sony can keep the price competitive and they advertise in America then the gap should close by Autumn 2012.

I'm not sure... I agree Kinect has slowed, but, on the PS3 front Move has stopped completely.  This was an epic year for PS3 from a gamer's perspective.  Uncharted 3, another God of War collection, Resistance 3, Infamous 2, etc. and a $50 price drop...  I don't see how PS3 will eclipse the numbers they have this year in 2012. 

Meanwhile 360 had no price drop in the past two years (in fact the average selling price of 360 probably went up with Kinect and Slim) and are relying more on 3rd parties to hold the fort for gamers.

If Microsoft didn't like their position they would have pulled a price drop this holiday season, but the lack of a price drop shows they are happy with their position.  Next year Microsoft will hype up Star Wars Kinect for the holiday season appealing to the casual gamer and competing with the Wii U, Halo 4 will probably be out there, and they will probably drop the price at least $50 putting more pressure on Sony and Nintendo.  Also, Nintendo will release Wii U which will sell well for at least a while.



brendude13 on 15 November 2011
NeoRatt said:
brendude13 said:
Can we restart this thread then?

I think the momentum from Kinect and the 360 slim has slowed down significantly, PS3 is looking to have a very strong year in 2012. If Sony can keep the price competitive and they advertise in America then the gap should close by Autumn 2012.

I'm not sure... I agree Kinect has slowed, but, on the PS3 front Move has stopped completely.  This was an epic year for PS3 from a gamer's perspective.  Uncharted 3, another God of War collection, Resistance 3, Infamous 2, etc. and a $50 price drop...  I don't see how PS3 will eclipse the numbers they have this year in 2012. 

Meanwhile 360 had no price drop in the past two years (in fact the average selling price of 360 probably went up with Kinect and Slim) and are relying more on 3rd parties to hold the fort for gamers.

If Microsoft didn't like their position they would have pulled a price drop this holiday season, but the lack of a price drop shows they are happy with their position.  Next year Microsoft will hype up Star Wars Kinect for the holiday season appealing to the casual gamer and competing with the Wii U, Halo 4 will probably be out there, and they will probably drop the price at least $50 putting more pressure on Sony and Nintendo.  Also, Nintendo will release Wii U which will sell well for at least a while.

The problem is, Move never really gave the PS3 that much momentum in the first place. As for 2012 being a better year than 2011, you are right, from the perspective of most gamers, 2011 will be hard to top. I guess 2012 is just better from my perspective, especially because I like Japanese games. The Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, FFXIII-2, Tales of Graces F, Metal Gear Solid: Rising, The Last Guardian, all of these games are, in my opinion, better than most of the games that came out in 2011. I don't know why but I just have a gut feeling that the price cut will still be making a significant impact in 2012, especially after the holiday period.