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Will the PS3 and 360 gap grow or close in 2011?

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biggamejames79 said:

Look at the difference in the number of 360 games over 5 million sold compared to ps3.  Then check the difference in 4 million games sold on both systems.  That's why the 360 leads, it has more games people want to play.  Last Gen ps2 had more great games, that's why it dominated.  If Sony wants to catch them they need better games, making great games that nobody buys doesn't help sales.  Don't get me wrong, I'm glad MS made Alan Wake even though it doesn't sell, because I like playing the game, but Alan Wake isn't what sells systems, Halo is.  Sony needs a Halo.  Uncharted may be an amazing game, but nobody knows who Nathan Drake is.  Link and Mario are household names, and Master Chief is very recognizable.  That's the difference this Gen.  Also, having a system cost 500-600 at launch is just retarded from a sales standpoint.

You really think that? Really have you played any ps3 exclusives, ps3 has more exclusives that people want to play, it just has so many more they don't get around to buying them all, where with 360 theres like 4 exclusives anyone wants at all



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I expect the gap to be anywhere around 2 million-6 million by the end of 2011.



Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:

i dont get it shipment figures say the gap is ~ 2.9 million

but VG chartz sales figures says the gap is ~ 3.9 million.

shouldn't sales and shipment difference be roughly the same or at max like ~ 3.4 million

360 has seen massive shortages in the last few months, but having trouble meeting demands.

You shouldn't base your opinions on the sales gap between consoles by units shipped as there are many factors that cause this value to be very very misleading.

well xbox is still raping in the US, and its always very close to ps3's numbers, so even if there were shortages. it just seems very odd that there would be more than a million more ps3's on selves than xbox's

MS is selling inventory as retailers receive shipments. They are temporarily unable to stock up to regular inventory levels. Retailers are stocked up with the appropriate number of PS3's.

Remember, the 360 shortages, just ended, there hasn't been time for retailers to stock up 360 consoles. 360 outsold the PS3 from Sept-December by about 1 million units, it doesn't make sence for the shipped difference to only change by 0.08 million units.

Keep in mind that there are several factors that play into the increased inventory gap.  The most important one being that Sony now ships to alot of countries the 360 doesn't, that increased base is always going to lead to a larger inventory gap, you can only be so streamlined.  Second, is the PS3 had lower than expected sales during the holiday season in the US, that lower sales figure should eventually result in lower shipment numbers in Sony's 4th quarter.  And finally, 360's sales surge in the US which resulted in a complete sell through of inventory for MS.  US retailers will be working to get that inventory back up this quarter so expect a larger than normal 1st quarter for MS shipments. 

 

So in the end a 1 million gap between the two is probably spot on, or atleast close enough for government work.



scat398 said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:

i dont get it shipment figures say the gap is ~ 2.9 million

but VG chartz sales figures says the gap is ~ 3.9 million.

shouldn't sales and shipment difference be roughly the same or at max like ~ 3.4 million

360 has seen massive shortages in the last few months, but having trouble meeting demands.

You shouldn't base your opinions on the sales gap between consoles by units shipped as there are many factors that cause this value to be very very misleading.

well xbox is still raping in the US, and its always very close to ps3's numbers, so even if there were shortages. it just seems very odd that there would be more than a million more ps3's on selves than xbox's

MS is selling inventory as retailers receive shipments. They are temporarily unable to stock up to regular inventory levels. Retailers are stocked up with the appropriate number of PS3's.

Remember, the 360 shortages, just ended, there hasn't been time for retailers to stock up 360 consoles. 360 outsold the PS3 from Sept-December by about 1 million units, it doesn't make sence for the shipped difference to only change by 0.08 million units.

Keep in mind that there are several factors that play into the increased inventory gap.  The most important one being that Sony now ships to alot of countries the 360 doesn't, that increased base is always going to lead to a larger inventory gap, you can only be so streamlined.  Second, is the PS3 had lower than expected sales during the holiday season in the US, that lower sales figure should eventually result in lower shipment numbers in Sony's 4th quarter.  And finally, 360's sales surge in the US which resulted in a complete sell through of inventory for MS.  US retailers will be working to get that inventory back up this quarter so expect a larger than normal 1st quarter for MS shipments.

 

So in the end a 1 million gap between the two is probably spot on, or atleast close enough for government work.

And if Sony shipped over 2.5m this quarter?



I will get slightly smaller... but not by much



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scat398 said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:

i dont get it shipment figures say the gap is ~ 2.9 million

but VG chartz sales figures says the gap is ~ 3.9 million.

shouldn't sales and shipment difference be roughly the same or at max like ~ 3.4 million

360 has seen massive shortages in the last few months, but having trouble meeting demands.

You shouldn't base your opinions on the sales gap between consoles by units shipped as there are many factors that cause this value to be very very misleading.

well xbox is still raping in the US, and its always very close to ps3's numbers, so even if there were shortages. it just seems very odd that there would be more than a million more ps3's on selves than xbox's

MS is selling inventory as retailers receive shipments. They are temporarily unable to stock up to regular inventory levels. Retailers are stocked up with the appropriate number of PS3's.

Remember, the 360 shortages, just ended, there hasn't been time for retailers to stock up 360 consoles. 360 outsold the PS3 from Sept-December by about 1 million units, it doesn't make sence for the shipped difference to only change by 0.08 million units.

Keep in mind that there are several factors that play into the increased inventory gap.  The most important one being that Sony now ships to alot of countries the 360 doesn't, that increased base is always going to lead to a larger inventory gap, you can only be so streamlined.  Second, is the PS3 had lower than expected sales during the holiday season in the US, that lower sales figure should eventually result in lower shipment numbers in Sony's 4th quarter.  And finally, 360's sales surge in the US which resulted in a complete sell through of inventory for MS.  US retailers will be working to get that inventory back up this quarter so expect a larger than normal 1st quarter for MS shipments. 

 

So in the end a 1 million gap between the two is probably spot on, or atleast close enough for government work.

What you say just validates the 2.8 Gap, but I don't undertand how shipping to more countries affect shipment figures, but not units sold?

If Sony sells the same number of PS3's and MS does 360's, then more retailers only implies lower volume per store. Stores only stock inventory to meet demand, and maybe 20-30% threshold for unexpected increased demand. If one store doesn't sell too many units, then they ship back extra units, or exchange consoles between stores of high and low demand.

Either way, from what you say, it appears you still agree with me that the shipped gap will grow. So thank you for applying logic.



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GoldenCannon said:

I think that the gap will close this year as the PS3 has tons of AAA exclusive games coming out comparing to MS of only 2-3. This will be the year the PS3 will shine with so many excellent games on the console there is no denying that alot of hardcore gamers will jump ship over to the PS3. I already know quite a few people already abandoned the xbox for the PS3 for this reason. The other reason would be the terrible hardware quality of xbox 360.




This is the year people, it will finally happen, or in the first 6 months of 2012.



Can we restart this thread then?

I think the momentum from Kinect and the 360 slim has slowed down significantly, PS3 is looking to have a very strong year in 2012. If Sony can keep the price competitive and they advertise in America then the gap should close by Autumn 2012.



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