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BTW, how profitable is Kinect so far? The $500 million marketing campaign, hardware costs, budget for the controller R&D, and budget for Kinect Adventures likely cut a bit into how much each sale made, and that's assuming Microsoft sold it at a profit (they better have, or else they would be in big trouble).



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FACT: Wii Sports will easily top 100m units if you belive something can top it i can 't say something 

but also take in account that kinect is mainly bought by already xbox owners



AussieGecko said:
LivingMetal said:

Nintendo should keep doing what they always do best.  They should keep making quality 1st and 2nd party games that appeal to their fanbase.  They should also keep their hardware profitable to it keep them competitive.  Currently, the Ninendo Wii is still a bigger success than the Xbox 360 and Kinect no matter how you try to spin it.


Wow we agree on something *head explodes*

 

Yes no doubt in my mind Wii is the much bigger success, so far it is amazing that 360 has turned it around. And Secondly I agree that Nintendo should keep doing their own things, it seems to have worked so far.

Yes.  Ever since the inception of the original NES, Nintendo's consoles have been almost all over the map in regards to marketshare.  And they have proven that they can reinvent themselves while still staying true to what they are.  In other words, you always know what to expect from Nintendo which is great.  Life is not about outdoing the "other person."  Life is about bettering yourself while staying true to yourself.  This works for Nintendo because I truly think that Nintendo puts gaming and their fans first.  Microsoft with Kinect on the other hand I think not.  Use some of that $500 million Kinect advertising budget to develop some hardcore games for Kinect to help appease your current fanbase.



Let's wait and see. Despite selling so many Kinects, 360 console sales aren't up by the same margin. Kinect could hit 20 mil and simply stop selling. Who knows?



Why should they? Nintendo profits more than $120 with each  Wii sold. I don't think they care as much for which console sell better as much as we do.



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LordTheNightKnight said:

BTW, how profitable is Kinect so far? The $500 million marketing campaign, hardware costs, budget for the controller R&D, and budget for Kinect Adventures likely cut a bit into how much each sale made, and that's assuming Microsoft sold it at a profit (they better have, or else they would be in big trouble).

Profitable? Well that depends on how you look at it to be perfectly frank.

Heres a pro tip from the mouth of an engineer working at Microsoft EDD/Kinect: The largest proportion of cost at launch are the development costs rather than the hardware costs. Considering the fixed costs / non recoverable expenditure before release against the overall game / game console and Kinect revenues since they are all interlinked I would say that the gross margins would be extremely good but the operational margins would probably range from negative to average.

Since around 2008 Microsoft and Nintendo have both shared similar philosophies on operating margins. Sony on the other hand has continued to think more in terms of gross margins given the statements about PS3 manufacturing costs when you compare that to operational performance. So that is probably another clue as to what their operational margins may be, personally I will say they're average.





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Beuli2 said:

Why should they? Nintendo profits more than $120 with each  Wii sold. I don't think they care as much for which console sell better as much as we do.

Thats the gross margins though, I doubt they make $120 from an operational perspective.



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George W. Bush: Nintendo should stay the course!

Arnold Schwarzenegger: They'll be back!

Peppy Hare: Do a barrel roll!



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AussieGecko said:
Buzzi said:

Wait, next gen isn't far away.


Hrmmm. By the looks of it, it could be. The fact that Sony and MS introduced these so late from their introduction it shows that this Gen is gonna be much longer than previous imo


I can't help but disagree. Sony will want to try to keep this gen going, since they built such a massive system and are still trying to recover market share. Nintendo needs to get into HD, and MS will likely want to re-engineer to finally get rid of the RROD nightmare they've been plagued with this gen. I give it 2 more years at most before we see a next gen console.



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LordTheNightKnight said:

BTW, how profitable is Kinect so far? The $500 million marketing campaign, hardware costs, budget for the controller R&D, and budget for Kinect Adventures likely cut a bit into how much each sale made, and that's assuming Microsoft sold it at a profit (they better have, or else they would be in big trouble).


why is it impossible for people to catch up, it has been mentioned many many many times that the 500mill was not just for Kinect, Others have also noted that 500 million is quite normal for a company. 

Lastly if it is in fact true how much ms are making 50 dollar make, 150 dollars $US (this is clearly talking about US pricing as I cant be bothered with the rest of the price conversions yadi yada.) But selling 8 mill (pretend they're sold, 8mill x 100 = 800mill so advertising is back after 2 weeks on the market.



 

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