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It has not happened yet....but it will. PS2 over 150M? Dis Sony say that? Were they shipped to retailer or sold to the final customer?



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If my maths are good :), the links posted by Ethomaz put the PS2 shipped at 150.49 millions on september 30 2010.

It should be close to 150 millions sold now, i suppose.

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I guess DS will pass PS2 eventually - although I believe strictly speaking if you go by shipments and sales this site is apparently not tracking at the moment it hasn't yet so the news may be premature - but I just don't see it as anything amazing.

The DS is a handheld.  A great one, I've bought two myself, but it's comparing a handheld to a home console.  I just don't find a handheld managing to sell more than a home console particularly impressive - if anything I guess I'm surprised it doesn't happen all the time.

I may just not get the demographics of handhelds right - or perhaps their growth has been slowed by smart phones, etc. this gen vs the general rise in gaming industry, but so far as I can see in theory they should sell more than consoles easily, particularly due to families.  I know friends who buy one console then four handhelds because they have four kids.  Really handhelds should have a huge advantage in potential userbase as they tend to be one to one for owners whereas many consoles are one to many for users.

Maybe I'm missing something.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Reasonable said:

The DS is a handheld.  A great one, I've bought two myself, but it's comparing a handheld to a home console.  I just don't find a handheld managing to sell more than a home console particularly impressive - if anything I guess I'm surprised it doesn't happen all the time.

I may just not get the demographics of handhelds right - or perhaps their growth has been slowed by smart phones, etc. this gen vs the general rise in gaming industry, but so far as I can see in theory they should sell more than consoles easily, particularly due to families.  I know friends who buy one console then four handhelds because they have four kids.  Really handhelds should have a huge advantage in potential userbase as they tend to be one to one for owners whereas many consoles are one to many for users.

Maybe I'm missing something.

The element that you're missing is that theorizing concerning the reason behind handheld sales trends does little to reflect the reality of it: the original Gameboy sold about 100 million units over the course of 12 years, and the GBA sold about 80 million. Both were outsold by the PS1 and PS2, and both will eventually be outsold by the Wii. The DS is the first handheld ever to sell as well as the PS2, much less better.

Whether or not it seems like this should be passe, it isn't, because it is unprecedented in the handheld space.



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macross said:

I'm not sure whether this is news or not, I just couldn't find any news about it.

PosConsoleAmericasJapanEMEAAWorldwide
1 Nintendo DS (DS) 53.54 32.27 58.90 144.71
2 Sony PlayStation 2 (PS2) 54.22 23.27 63.19 140.68
3 Nintendo GameBoy (GB) 44.06 32.47 42.16 118.69

http://www.vgchartz.com/hardware_totals.php

That was a given. PS2 wasn't going to stay on top forever. I believe the Wii will be next to surpass 140 million and the PS2. Probably in another 2-3 years from now.



Khuutra said:
Reasonable said:

The DS is a handheld.  A great one, I've bought two myself, but it's comparing a handheld to a home console.  I just don't find a handheld managing to sell more than a home console particularly impressive - if anything I guess I'm surprised it doesn't happen all the time.

I may just not get the demographics of handhelds right - or perhaps their growth has been slowed by smart phones, etc. this gen vs the general rise in gaming industry, but so far as I can see in theory they should sell more than consoles easily, particularly due to families.  I know friends who buy one console then four handhelds because they have four kids.  Really handhelds should have a huge advantage in potential userbase as they tend to be one to one for owners whereas many consoles are one to many for users.

Maybe I'm missing something.

The element that you're missing is that theorizing concerning the reason behind handheld sales trends does little to reflect the reality of it: the original Gameboy sold about 100 million units over the course of 12 years, and the GBA sold about 80 million. Both were outsold by the PS1 and PS2, and both will eventually be outsold by the Wii. The DS is the first handheld ever to sell as well as the PS2, much less better.

Whether or not it seems like this should be passe, it isn't, because it is unprecedented in the handheld space.

Ah.  Okay.  Still find it boring though.  If (when?) the Wii passes PS2 that'll be impressive for me.  I guess I'm now of a mind handheld sales (high end) are actually a little disappointing next to home console sales (high end).  Would never have thought that.  I always figured handhelds must sell more.

Interesting what it implies because in many cases they really should sell more - for example I know so many friends who lost/replaced them.  You've a lot more likely to lose replace a handheld than a console that's for sure.  Incredible they don't sell more the more I think about it.

I wonder why not?  Do you think it's a lack of adults buying them vs a broader purchase base for home consoles?  I could see this particularly in the West, and I guess the DS performance boost could be down to more adults purchasing in West via Brain Training, etc. and the associated marketing push.

Crikey.  No wonder Nintendo is pushing 3DS and Sony are looking to release (maybe) a PSP phone.  I'd have to figure that the handheld market could be vulnerable to smartphones simply disolving the need for their existence (I certainly have no desire to carry multiple devices and would happily take a single device if available).  Obviously exclusive titles help, particularly for Nintendo I would imagine, but still...

(Off topic, but as you're here, regarding our little VC chat, I though the writing and basic characters were also on the generic/cliche side but what made it work for me was the unusual (at least in my experience) mood of the game regarding conflict, xenophobia and the negative impact of war.  Maybe that didn't help its sales but for me it gave rise to a nice emotional mood a number of times.  I'd love to see a truly well written videogame explore this theme).



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Reasonable said:

Ah.  Okay.  Still find it boring though.  If (when?) the Wii passes PS2 that'll be impressive for me.  I guess I'm now of a mind handheld sales (high end) are actually a little disappointing next to home console sales (high end).  Would never have thought that.  I always figured handhelds must sell more.

Interesting what it implies because in many cases they really should sell more - for example I know so many friends who lost/replaced them.  You've a lot more likely to lose replace a handheld than a console that's for sure.  Incredible they don't sell more the more I think about it.

I wonder why not?  Do you think it's a lack of adults buying them vs a broader purchase base for home consoles?  I could see this particularly in the West, and I guess the DS performance boost could be down to more adults purchasing in West via Brain Training, etc. and the associated marketing push.

Crikey.  No wonder Nintendo is pushing 3DS and Sony are looking to release (maybe) a PSP phone.  I'd have to figure that the handheld market could be vulnerable to smartphones simply disolving the need for their existence (I certainly have no desire to carry multiple devices and would happily take a single device if available).  Obviously exclusive titles help, particularly for Nintendo I would imagine, but still...

(Off topic, but as you're here, regarding our little VC chat, I though the writing and basic characters were also on the generic/cliche side but what made it work for me was the unusual (at least in my experience) mood of the game regarding conflict, xenophobia and the negative impact of war.  Maybe that didn't help its sales but for me it gave rise to a nice emotional mood a number of times.  I'd love to see a truly well written videogame explore this theme).

If I had to guess, a big contributing factor would be that home consoles are just more economical for families; if you had only five hundred dollars to spend on gaming for your two/three children in an entire generation, would you buy two/three handhelds or one console with two/three controllers? Families with multiple DSes are most probably in a minority, with PSPs even moreso.

(try Final Fantasy XII [12], or any game written by Matsuno; very similar themes but with much stronger and subtler writing and characterization; Ogre Battle 64 on the VC works nice, though the localization on the script is bad in places)



The PS2 shipped 143.15m as of September 2010. Since the 1st week of September to Dec. 25th, VGC says it sold 1.6m

Odds are, the DS and PS2 are tied right now, and the DS will pass it NEXT week. :P



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SaviorX said:

The PS2 shipped 143.15m 150.49m as of September 2010. Since the 1st week of September to Dec. 25th, VGC says it sold 1.6m

Odds are, the DS and PS2 are tied right now, and the DS will pass it NEXT week. :P

Fixed.