I think Wii Sports and Wii Play (at least Tanks) do have great gameplay, especially with friends. Those games represent what games are all about IMO, or what they should be about.

Wii Music, Wii Party, and Mario Party 8 I will give you. The early Mario Party games were far superior for whatever reason. The first couple Mario Parties were two of the best N64 games. You would think the motion controls would make Mario Party more fun but that was far from the case..

Wii Music is not a game so much as a musical toy. But this also wasn't exactly a "best seller" and for good reason.

Wii Party is kinda fun, but many of its games are mindless and seem to be based mostly or entirely on luck.

Anyway, these games are meant to be played with multiple players for the most part, and it makes them far more fun, even the not so good games that I mentioned.

Wii play has great gameplay? That's new to me. Wii sports resort and wii sports are great though, but wii play? Heck no.

As for more 3rd party support on the wii.... doubt it.

No, third parties will shun Nintendo til the end of time

I never understood why 3rd parties much rather support the PSP than the Wii, especially in the West. 

There is always an excuse not to support Nintendo.  Except for the NES I guess they had no choice.  But SNES they claimed that it was kiddy, Nintendo's policy agianst blood or something like that, I heard stuff about the clock speed and such.  But the SNES was in general terms superior hardware than the Genesis.

With the N64, the complaint was about the CD vs ROMs, somewhat understandable at first but, the CD just allowed for short movies and cutscenes that were mistakenly though to be the actual graphics of the game.  If you see games from Rare and Factor 5, they were vastly superior than PS1 ans Saturn games technically speaking.

The GC was the same fake excuses.  The smaller discs was the only thing 'cause GC was technically superior than the PS2. 

Nope I think they will focus more on the 3DS

I wouldn't expect significant third party support for a Nintendo home console until Nintendo releases their next generation platform; and even then it will be less support than Nintendo should have earned with the success of the Wii.

The 3rd parties are always going to find a reason to not make games for Nintendo-systems,we just have to accept that when you buy a Nintendo-system you buy it for Nintendo-games, any quality 3rd party game that is released on it is a bonus

Hmm, considering the tremendous rise of the MH series in popularity since the PS2 games and the huge numbers of the PSP games I was expecting much higher sales, in Japan at least. Capcom and Nintendo made a big show when they announced the games' switch from PS3 to Wii, and the widely praised graphics must have been expensive. I'm fairly certain that both companes were disappointed. It sold alright, but it was no blockbuster. 

Granted, it's never been popular in the west (myself I'd never play a MH game), but the Japan numbers had to be higher. 

OK, the "Wii something" games don't have great gameplay; in these cases it's more about pioneering the kind of gameplay that defined the Wii. Nintendo got it perfectly right (well obviously, they made the console with the "Wii something" games in mind and vice versa). 

So let's split it up: There are the 'strong IP / unrivalled gameplay quality' type of games (Mario Kart, SMG1 2, NSMBWii, Zelda:TP) and the 'fresh experience / motion control pioneering' games. The problem is that Nintendo is unbeaten in all the biggest genres. No 3rd party ever topped the best motion control games (Wii Sports / Resort / Fit ...), the best Jump'n'Runs (SMG1 2, NSMBWii), the best racing game (Mario Kart), the best action adventure (Zelda:TP). So whatever 3rd parties do, N is already there, setting the bar too damn high. 

I mean, I'm one of those guys myself: I hardly ever buy a game that is not made by N. And if I do, I am often disappointed that some basic qualities I was taking for granted aren't there. Interesting side note: On the DS I've played much more 3rd party games, and some very good ones too. It's weird, isn't it? Graphically, the DS is behind the PSP just as much as the Wii is behind the HD consoles. But it doesn't seem to hurt 3rd party efforts in the same way.

There's a big difference between what you may have expected from the game's sales and stating that it was probably "a shocker to the industry" , but anyway...

Among other things, the game's online in Japan was paid subscription, as opposed to free online on the PSP. That certainly had an effect on sales on the one hand but on the other hand increased Capcom's profits.