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Veder Juda on 05 January 2011
bmmb1 said:

Short answer: No

 

Long Answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

 

On a more serious note (though the above was also serious, kind of): The Wii will continue getting some support from the usual suspects (Capcom, Activision, Ubisoft), some crap-quality support from the usual suspects (EA and some others), but that's it.

Regarding sales of Epic Mickey and Goldeneye paving the way for further support:

1. From the moment someone decides on developing a new game, I think it takes at aleast 2 years before it's done if the game is to be of reasonable quality. So 2011 is a goner as far as any effect from recent 3rd party sales.

2. Regardless of which numbers you actually believe, NPD or VGC, I would wait for NPD numbers for these games before making such declarations, since those will more probably be the numbers the media will quote and so most developers would look at... (again, regardless of which numbers will actually be the correct ones)

This reminds me of Monster Hunter 3, a game that might have convinced Capcom that they should be putting more AAA content on the Wii, and since that game came out in 2009, there's a chance Capcom might have something on the tail end of the year for the Wii; of course, they haven't announced any such game yet.  Also, that might make it a late-2011 release in Japan, while the rest of the world gets it in 2012.



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routsounmanman on 05 January 2011
OneTwoThree said:

3rd parties lack the IPs and gameplay quality of Nintendo, so they are dependent on eye candy, and on the Wii there's no way to visually impress buyers like on the HD consoles. 

Precicely; 3rd parties make games that heavily rely on graphics and cinematics. It's like putting Avatar on VHS. Nintendo is partially to blame for the lack of 3rd party games on Wii; they simply went too far with its hardware.



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Mr Khan on 05 January 2011
OneTwoThree said:

Don't think so. I'm afraid even big titles like "The Last Story" and "Dragon Quest X" will underperform, similar to "Monster Hunter 3". MH3's sales probably were quite a shocker to the industry. 

The second reason is that 3rd parties are probably expecting a Wii successor within a year, so there's no more time left to start any big projects that aren't already far in development. 

3rd parties lack the IPs and gameplay quality of Nintendo, so they are dependent on eye candy, and on the Wii there's no way to visually impress buyers like on the HD consoles. 

My 2 cents.

I'm fairly certain its the best-selling out of the non-portable monster hunters, and likely the top-seller in the west overall



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bmmb1 on 05 January 2011
OneTwoThree said:

Don't think so. I'm afraid even big titles like "The Last Story" and "Dragon Quest X" will underperform, similar to "Monster Hunter 3". MH3's sales probably were quite a shocker to the industry. 

The second reason is that 3rd parties are probably expecting a Wii successor within a year, so there's no more time left to start any big projects that aren't already far in development. 

3rd parties lack the IPs and gameplay quality of Nintendo, so they are dependent on eye candy, and on the Wii there's no way to visually impress buyers like on the HD consoles. 

My 2 cents.

"MH3's sales probably were quite a shocker to the industry" (?) We're obviously not living in the same universe... Maybe someone else will have the force to explain to you why you are way off, but I don't right now.



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Bobbuffalo on 05 January 2011

In order to make a succesful game on the wii the main focus most be how the user has fun with the structure of the game, then it should be the content with more than enough for the user to engage on it, then a high replay value and most of all to keep the social element of gaming on it intact.

It has to be more a game than an interactive movie.

The games that sell well on the Wii are those that keep the basic fundamental of videogames alive: customer experience first and foremost than anything else. The developer vision comes last.

So the answer to your post is NO. They lack the skills for it and they don't have the intentions to look for it. They never did and they never will. And everybody who thinks that a new console by Nintendo will fix that is delusional. 3d parties are pathetic artsy filmmakers and make games for Nintendo means be more mainstream than niche.



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pacman91 on 05 January 2011
-PaNdOrA- said:

I hope so.

Maybe devs will start making more PSWii titles now that Move is out?

I could see EA releasing a multiplat boom blox....but I'm sure EA could find a way to screw it up on the wii.



Metallicube on 05 January 2011

I doubt they will. Wii has been third party repellent for whatever reason, despite having by the the biggest userbase and being easiest and cheapest to develop for. Which is a shame, considering how strong the Wii software sales are even without them. Imagine if Wii recieved PS2 like support, the games sales would be unimaginable..

But I digress.. I don't think Wii is done with the strong third party games just yet. There is obviously DQIX and Last Story, and who knows, maybe sequels to games like Epic Mickey and Little King's Story. Conduit 2 and Lost Shadow look good. Will Wii have many blockbusters from here on out? Doubtful. But that doesn't mean there won't be quality. More obscure stuff like Little King's Story, Rune Factory, Zack and Wiki, etc will probably keep coming, though they won't recieve much of a look by most because of limited appeal and lack of marketting. Sadly, the few quality third party games on Wii generally tend to have a limit appeal.

In terms of more true heavy hitters like Epic Mickey, Monter Hunter Tri, and DQX, Nintendo is basically stuck with what they got now until they release a new console, and even then support will probably pale in comparison to MS and Sony as a result of the strength of Nintendo made franchises scaring them off.



Kennyheart on 05 January 2011

No cuss it's all going to the 3DS.



Boutros on 05 January 2011
OneTwoThree said:

Don't think so. I'm afraid even big titles like "The Last Story" and "Dragon Quest X" will underperform, similar to "Monster Hunter 3". MH3's sales probably were quite a shocker to the industry. 

The second reason is that 3rd parties are probably expecting a Wii successor within a year, so there's no more time left to start any big projects that aren't already far in development. 

3rd parties lack the IPs and gameplay quality of Nintendo, so they are dependent on eye candy, and on the Wii there's no way to visually impress buyers like on the HD consoles. 

My 2 cents.

That is a rather overrated belief.

The best-selling games by Nintendo hardly have a great gameplay. I'm thinking of games like Wii Party, Wii Play, Wii Music, Wii Sports or Mario Party 8.



Kennyheart on 05 January 2011

And really 3rd parites haven't been having a great sucess  with the wii the past years what makes 2011 so special for 3rd parties?