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Which will sell more Lifetime: 360 or PSP?

PSP 70 35.90%
 
360 125 64.10%
 
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Mr Puggsly on 04 January 2011
snakenobi said:

PSP's plus points :

software support still there

Software support is clearly struggling. Only major 3 games crossed the million mark courtesy of Japan.

sony is known to keep playstation products selling for long time

Any console with huge sales is known for getting support for a long time. However, PSP has modest software for such a large userbase. My guess is they'll focus on PSP2 because of this.

Possible alot future SONY phones integrating PSP to keep PSP going for 10 year life-cycle,first PSPhone releasing soon

PSP phones have no real chance of being a success. Maybe they'll get attention in Japan but that's pretty much it.

strong SONY first party to keep it going

Have you not seen the sales of 1st party PSP games? The market clearly has far more interest in 3rd party.

pricecuts

I think pricecuts could keep sales steady, but with PSP2 coming this year I'm not expecting a big impact.

 

PSP's negatives :

bad software sales as a result software support dropping

Support is arguably just as strong as ever. Just a lack of interest from consumers.

 

 

So give your predictions and also tell us what you think will be the lifetime of both of them?


my prediction is PSP


lifetime:

360 = 80m

PSP = 90m

I'm reluctant to believe the PSP will reach 90million with PSP sales declining and PSP2 coming.

I'm also unsure 360 will surpass PSP. The gap will shrink significantly in the coming years. The 360 outsold PSP by over 4 million units in 2010. Unless PSP has a huge decline it will be difficult for 360 to surpass it.

I guess I'll give the edge to 360 in life time sales just because MS could support it longer.


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mantlepiecek on 04 January 2011

PSP will do around 80 million

360 will do around 81 million.

It will be close.



Mr Puggsly on 04 January 2011
mantlepiecek said:

I think 360 might sell more. PSP is going to have a successor next year.

Aren't PSP2 games already in development?

PSP2 should be coming this year.



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mantlepiecek on 04 January 2011
Mr Puggsly said:
mantlepiecek said:

I think 360 might sell more. PSP is going to have a successor next year.

Aren't PSP2 games already in development?

PSP2 should be coming this year.


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Immortal on 04 January 2011
Blood_Tears said:
Immortal said:

The way things are going, I can't see PSP winning out -- it'd be lucky to top 75m imo and 360 will more likely than not end up at 82m or so. PS3 vs 360 would be an interesting comparison though.



Fixed  :)


Well, I'm probably reading too much into the sales at the moment, but I can't really see the PS3 passing the 360 anymore -- MS can cut price more and exclusives make little difference at this point.

That's a completely different argument though.



 

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snakenobi on 04 January 2011
gergroy said:
snakenobi said:
gergroy said:
snakenobi said:

 

360's negatives :

successor coming on in 1-2 years time

low first party to support 2 consoles

MS would have a stiff competition next generation so they might shift resources away


PSP's negatives :

bad software sales as a result software support dropping

 


I'm confused, how do these negatives not apply to the psp as well?  Especially since the Xbox successor is nothing but speculative, but we know that a psp2 is going to be revealed at sometime this year?  And psp2 won't have stiff competition from the 3ds?  So Sony wouldn't need to shift resources?  

Also, don't really need a first party to keep supporting an old console.  Sony has barely supported the ps2 at all since the ps3 came out.  Ps2 had some big first party games the first year the ps3 was out, after that all the ps2 got from sony themselves was crappy psp ports.  I don't know if I would really call that support.  Third parties are the primary supporters of older systems after new ones come out.  

check again,it was an edit mistake.i have included the succesor for psp's negatives too

PSP2 would have a stiff competition but as you see PSP's positives,SONY has tremendous first party support and they have been known to support platform way after they peak.SONY would shift resources but they have enough in the bag to continue to support PSP as you can see with the PS2.

and if you think SONY hasn't supported PS2 since PS3 came out then please go check again,GOW2 came on PS2 after PS3's release.MOTORSTORM,MLB,SINGSTAR,etc came out too.yeah it wasn't like the PS2's peakdays but it was still supported and ports or not,atleast people were buying it.

 

"Third parties are the primary supporters of older systems after new ones come out."

 

you seem to talk in general then go check how third party or first party suppported older consoles like XBOX,GAMECUBE,GAMEBOY when their succesor came out.they didn't support them so much

 

and please leave lifetime numbers

here, let me highlight the part you didn't seem to read.  Also, you should check how many 1st party games that have come out for the ps2 in the last couple years that haven't been ported from the psp and then get back to me.  (you see, psp isn't going to get easy ports from the ps3, so it isn't going to be the same, the ps3 might get ports from psp2 though.)

i admitted many have been ports but they still came and mlb,singstars,etc weren't ports

where is 360 going to get port next gen.

 

i am not saying son't first party is gonna be a big deal but all  together with other things sony keeps supporting



snakenobi on 04 January 2011
Immortal said:
Blood_Tears said:
Immortal said:

The way things are going, I can't see PSP winning out -- it'd be lucky to top 75m imo and 360 will more likely than not end up at 82m or so. PS3 vs 360 would be an interesting comparison though.



Fixed  :)


Well, I'm probably reading too much into the sales at the moment, but I can't really see the PS3 passing the 360 anymore -- MS can cut price more and exclusives make little difference at this point.

That's a completely different argument though.

but what are your predictions

 

and as you think PSP vs PS3 would be good comparision and not 360 vs PSP then please give PS3 numbers too



Immortal on 04 January 2011

Fine, if you're asking me to do it, I suppose I have your permission to derail the thread slightly, :P.

For the moment, it looks to me like PS3 could end up at anywhere from 72m to 80m depending on how well it fares in Americas over the next few years. I fear that it'll hit the lower end right now (guess 2011 exclusives could prove me wrong, though) so I'll put it at 74m, which is 1m below what I expect of PSP.



 

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snakenobi on 04 January 2011
Mr Puggsly said:
snakenobi said:

PSP's plus points :

software support still there

Software support is clearly struggling. Only major 3 games crossed the million mark courtesy of Japan.

i know that why is just said software support is there and not that its good but SONY keeps bringing games and makes 3rd parties make some too

sony is known to keep playstation products selling for long time

Any console with huge sales is known for getting support for a long time. However, PSP has modest software for such a large userbase. My guess is they'll focus on PSP2 because of this.

not really,gameboy didn't get good support after DS

Possible alot future SONY phones integrating PSP to keep PSP going for 10 year life-cycle,first PSPhone releasing soon

PSP phones have no real chance of being a success. Maybe they'll get attention in Japan but that's pretty much it.

WHO IS SAYING THEY will get attention but what if you are already buying a phone and you get built-in support for psp games and as phones keep selling psp's userbase will grow

strong SONY first party to keep it going

Have you not seen the sales of 1st party PSP games? The market clearly has far more interest in 3rd party.

i know but i never said what market will accept,i wasn't talking about COD sales but atleast good game support.atleast try to understand and not shun it away staright away

pricecuts

I think pricecuts could keep sales steady, but with PSP2 coming this year I'm not expecting a big impact.

 

PSP's negatives :

bad software sales as a result software support dropping

Support is arguably just as strong as ever. Just a lack of interest from consumers.

really,are we getting GTA,MGS like games all the time like the PSP had near its launch.todays psp third party games are mostly because sony wants to keep them going,do you really think KONAMI just made MGS PW as they thought they could profit,sony surely must have given them a cut of the licensing fee

 

 

So give your predictions and also tell us what you think will be the lifetime of both of them?


my prediction is PSP


lifetime:

360 = 80m

PSP = 90m

I'm reluctant to believe the PSP will reach 90million with PSP sales declining and PSP2 coming.

I'm also unsure 360 will surpass PSP. The gap will shrink significantly in the coming years. The 360 outsold PSP by over 4 million units in 2010. Unless PSP has a huge decline it will be difficult for 360 to surpass it.

I guess I'll give the edge to 360 in life time sales just because MS could support it longer.





Seece on 04 January 2011

2011

360, 12 - 15 million (continued Kinect Support, meaningful HW cuts)
PSP, 6 - 9 million (successors launch and dent PSP sales, stay fairly high if when Sony cut the price)

2012

360, 9 - 13 million
PSP, 2 - 5 million (New successors in full swing, PSP won't last long now)

2013

360, 6 - 10 million
PSP, 1 - 3 million

2014

360, 3 - 6 million
PSP, 0

Total up to 2015

360, 81 - 95 million
PSP, 74 - 82 million

360 is 15 million away from PSP lifetime, and outsold it this year by 4 million. With PSP successor on the horizon and the 3DS JUST round the corner, it's very much nearing the end of its life, 360, not so much.