Again, why is the whole Holidays comes to play when all 25 success threads you've made about Kinect, Fable, Halo never mention the boost these games get during the holidays. There is areason MS releases 90% of their big franchise during holiday times. Now Enough with that.

we have ww numbers already?

They show up on the GT5 page, the Japan numbers are still out for whatever reason. VGchartz was slow last week, it took 2 days to "proccess" the Americas numbers.

LT for GT5 will be around 10.5.   Glad to see tha PD finally released it.

ur saying kinect will drop like gt5 will when holidays are over? ur thinking that kinect will sell just as much/less than gt5? stop making things up to defend gt5

That means Japan is not up yet.

I really don't care what Kinect sells, but my point is all gaming will drop after the holidays, so people stop talking like the GT5 is unique and after the holidays, it will disapear.

when did i say gt5 is unique in the fact it will sell slowly in the holidays? AGAIN you're making things up to defend GT5. I din't EVEN MENTION GT5 in my OP. I said GT4 WASN'T released in the holidays. oh man ur either too sensitive or trying to get me in trouble...ok let's drop it

yeah its doing fine...i had the prediction it will sell over 10 mill...but i really dont know if it will happen...i mean Japan really dissappoints me...never thought it would do soo bad...Americas is okay...it was clea it wouldnt do GT3 numbers in that area but i think it has a good chance to do GT4 numbers...and for Europe...AWESOME...it always was the best area for a GT...we love cars & GT...i think it will surpass GT4 numbers there...but it was released in the holidays...GT4 did so good without a holiday release...it gotta be exciting...but so or so it sells great and again proves that GT is the racing king without a doubt!!!

First, you are not the OP, second you are in a gt5 thread, third your point is we should not be comparing GT5 to GT4 which you guys were doing all November, because they were release in different times. I am sensitive, but to trolling, I can catch it miles away. You had nothing to add to this tread but decided to say something you can't stand by, now next time realize people will call you out for bad post.

Now, which one is it folks?

First we had GT5 couldn't do well because Racing sim was dead, it could never sell as well as previous GT because PS2 had a huge userbase, it could never sell as well because it got so so reviews, it was release during holidays, Forza is better and took a lot of the fans with it, which one is it folks?

GT is very popular in Europe people, look at GT PSP, if you think it's going away, good luck.