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LordTheNightKnight on 15 December 2007
couchmonkey said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
naznatips said:

Every new IP published by Nintendo last generation:

Pikmin
Battalion Wars
Chibi-Robo
Custom Robo
Eternal Darkness
Odama
Advance Wars (first outside Japan)
Fire Emblem (first outside Japan)
Animal Crossing (first outside Japan)
Golden Sun
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (They own 2nd party rights)

This generation to date:

ASH: Archaic Sealed Heat
Big Brain Academy
Brain Age
Clubhouse Games
Jump Stars (Japan only, but great import)
Electroplankton
Elite Beat Agents
Hotel Dusk
Inazuma Eleven
Jet Impulse
Magical Starsign
Magnetica
Meteos
Nintendogs
Planet Puzzle League That's not new. You played Tetris Attack, or Pokemon Puzzle Lague? This is just the latest in the series, which is called Panel de Pon on Japan.
Polarium
Project Hacker
Trace Memory
Time Hollow
Touch Golf
Wander Donkey (Don't ask)
Wii series (Sports, Fit, Play, Chess, Music, Motorsports)
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Endless Ocean
Excite Truck That's not new either. It's part of the Excite IP, which merely included bikes before, but does count.

Most of those are on the DS (all of them except the last 4), but you should have no concern at all about new IPs on the Wii. I seriously doubt any company has published as many new IPs as Nintendo in the last 3 years.


 


2/25 is no big thing, Nintendo is still pumping out lots of new IPs. I also think people need to consider whether the IP is really important when considering something like the Wii series. That series is more about creative game applications than intellectual property,and it's possible for something like Wii music to attract a totally different audience than Wii Sports or Wii Fit. The Wii name is a bit of a good rallying call for the products, but there's wider-ranging potential than with an IP like Halo or Zelda, where you're always going to be stuck with that fantasy world as a starting point.

Super Mario Galaxy and Mario Party both feature the same characters and "universe", but they appeal to different audiences. Is the game design not part of the "intellectual property"?


And besides, how many new IPs sell well without major hype? We have Bioshock, Gears, Resistance, and Assassin's Creed, but did those magically get people's attention, without hype that made people aware of them? 



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Erik Aston on 15 December 2007

Battalion Wars and Advance Wars are both part of the Console Wars series which started with Famicom Wars about 20 years ago.

IP means Intellectual Property. We really should say software brand instead of IP. The design of the Balance Board or the shape of the new Wiimote sleeves is Nintendo's IP, but that's obviously not what we're talking about.

But even then, it's sort of meaningless. As was just pointed out with Planet Puzzle League, it's an old game, but it's under a new software brand. Nothing special about that. Meanwhile Wii Fit has revolutionary gameplay, but relies on an existing software brand.

"Number of new software brands" is an artificial measure of a company's commitment to innovation. Nintendo is pretty obviously commited to innovation right now, and they are doing it both with old brands and new ones.



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LordTheNightKnight on 15 December 2007
Erik Aston said:
Battalion Wars and Advance Wars are both part of the Console Wars series which started with Famicom Wars about 20 years ago.

IP means Intellectual Property. We really should say software brand instead of IP. The design of the Balance Board or the shape of the new Wiimote sleeves is Nintendo's IP, but that's obviously not what we're talking about.

But even then, it's sort of meaningless. As was just pointed out with Planet Puzzle League, it's an old game, but it's under a new software brand. Nothing special about that. Meanwhile Wii Fit has revolutionary gameplay, but relies on an existing software brand.

"Number of new software brands" is an artificial measure of a company's commitment to innovation. Nintendo is pretty obviously commited to innovation right now, and they are doing it both with old brands and new ones.

Damn right it's artificial. R&C is a great series, but how many Sony fanboys decried it as just another sequel for the PS3? Almost none, but they sure called on the Wii for having a Zelda game at launch. 



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

I like Bacon on 15 December 2007

Yes, there should be some. but I also want sequels!



Renar on 15 December 2007

Erik Aston said:
Wii Fit and Wii Music are old IP. Namely, uh, the Wii brand. It's been around for about a year, maybe you've heard of it. Just because they have different gameplay doesn't necesarily make them new IP, unless Mario Party is a seperate IP.

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Hopefully Nintendo will still have some new IP next year, though.


If I get what you're saying, Wii Fit and Wii Music are not new IPs because the name of Wii is in their titles.  But if they had just named them Fit, Music, Draw, Sports and Play that would be 5 IPs since there isn't a common name to link them together.  And if it is not the name that links them together as an IP, what is it then?



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RCTjunkie on 15 December 2007

A new i.p. should be about a pig that learns how to fly & has to save the queen of England before hell freezes over.



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Final-Fan on 16 December 2007
RCTjunkie said:
A new i.p. should be about a pig that learns how to fly & has to save the queen of England before hell freezes over.

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hongkongfuey^2 on 16 December 2007

HAHA i like RCTjunkie's idea for a new IP!

They should make a game where you go around and steal cars and shoot cops and innocent people! oh crap, thats been done.