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jarrod said:

Not the lowest... some Enterbrain debut numbers which are close or lower...

 

  • Final Fantasy X (Mega Hits) (PS2) 8,861
  • Final Fantasy X (Ultimate Hits) (PS2) 4,702
  • Final Fantasy X / X-2 Ultimate Box (Ultimate Hits) (PS2) 4,756
  • Final Fantasy XI: Online (All-In One Pack 2006) (360) 4,561
  • Final Fantasy XII (Ultimate Hits) (PS2) 1,100
  • Final Fantasy III (Ultimate Hits) (DS) 4,819
  • Final Fantasy IV (Ultimate Hits) (DS) 2,700
...and lots of FF reissues didn't even rank 1st week (meaning outside top 30)...
  • Final Fantasy VII International (PSOne Books) (PS)
  • Final Fantasy VIII (PSOne Books) (PS)
  • Final Fantasy X International (Ultimate Hits) (PS2)
  • Final Fantasy X-2 (Ultimate Hits) (PS2)
  • Final Fantasy X-2 International plus Last Mission (Ultimate Hits) (PS2)
  • Final Fantasy VII International (Ultimate Hits) (PS)
  • Final Fantasy VIII (Ultimate Hits) (PS)
  • Final Fantasy IX (Ultimate Hits) (PS) 
  • Final Fantasy XII International Zodiac Job System (Ultimate Hits) (PS2)
  • Final Fantasy Anniversary Edition (Ultimate Hits) (PSP)
  • Final Fantasy II Anniversary Edition (Ultimate Hits) (PSP)
...every other "All-In" FFXI releases on PS2/360 did around 3-6k first week too (there were a LOT and I didn't feel like putting them all).
Actually, it looks like FFXIIIi is really the best selling Ultimate Hits debut for the series. :P

 

ALL OF THEM ARE RELEASED IN THE SAME PLATFORM FF XIII made a 360 debut 



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Chibi.V.29 said:

That more than the lowest opening for a ff game ever. thats like the single worst opening for a major consol rpg ever XD (not literately but you get what i meen)


That's not a opening. The game was already on the XBox 360 in US and Europe. It a very low re-release in a new market, but there were a lot more lower re-release FF games then this. It's far from being the lowest.


That part here was to point out i was being sarcastic ^^



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alfredofroylan said:

So Japan finally realise how bad FF XIII is??


Were you there when the game came out? It got a bucket load of negative feedback from JPN gamers.



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was this supposed to be a surprise i mean everyone should of seen this coming it was pretty obvious from the start. Japan= Sony Territory so that obviously meant that the game was going to do terrible one year after the fact it came out. 



ps3_jrpg_gamer said:
jarrod said:

Not the lowest... some Enterbrain debut numbers which are close or lower...

 

  • Final Fantasy X (Mega Hits) (PS2) 8,861
  • Final Fantasy X (Ultimate Hits) (PS2) 4,702
  • Final Fantasy X / X-2 Ultimate Box (Ultimate Hits) (PS2) 4,756
  • Final Fantasy XI: Online (All-In One Pack 2006) (360) 4,561
  • Final Fantasy XII (Ultimate Hits) (PS2) 1,100
  • Final Fantasy III (Ultimate Hits) (DS) 4,819
  • Final Fantasy IV (Ultimate Hits) (DS) 2,700
...and lots of FF reissues didn't even rank 1st week (meaning outside top 30)...
  • Final Fantasy VII International (PSOne Books) (PS)
  • Final Fantasy VIII (PSOne Books) (PS)
  • Final Fantasy X International (Ultimate Hits) (PS2)
  • Final Fantasy X-2 (Ultimate Hits) (PS2)
  • Final Fantasy X-2 International plus Last Mission (Ultimate Hits) (PS2)
  • Final Fantasy VII International (Ultimate Hits) (PS)
  • Final Fantasy VIII (Ultimate Hits) (PS)
  • Final Fantasy IX (Ultimate Hits) (PS) 
  • Final Fantasy XII International Zodiac Job System (Ultimate Hits) (PS2)
  • Final Fantasy Anniversary Edition (Ultimate Hits) (PSP)
  • Final Fantasy II Anniversary Edition (Ultimate Hits) (PSP)
...every other "All-In" FFXI releases on PS2/360 did around 3-6k first week too (there were a LOT and I didn't feel like putting them all).
Actually, it looks like FFXIIIi is really the best selling Ultimate Hits debut for the series. :P

 

ALL OF THEM ARE RELEASED IN THE SAME PLATFORM FF XIII made a 360 debut 

Not only they are release on the same platform, but nearly all of them are the same game with a new box and price point, often call "greatest hit". Greatest hit version, dont even start selling in all stores at the same time.



What happens to the Final Fantasy brand if Final Fantasy Vs 13 ends up also not coming off all that well?  With Final Fantasy XIV having major issues and a no-show on the PS3 thus far, what does the future hold?  If Vs 13 ends up being middle of the road and sales, then what?



=The number of people who own a 360 and don't own a PS3, who are big enough FF fans to buy a FF game that according to many FF fans is a bit of a let down...

You expect that number to be significant? I think not.

One must assume SE and MS knew the absolute sales potential would be low, but that it was economical to localise the 360 version for Japan. It probably cost them about 5000 units in sales to do the localisation, if that, so they've made a small profit week 1. But the exercise is obviously more for the benefit of MS than SE, so it's possible MS paid the full cost of localisation.

Doesn't really give much of a reason for other FFs to be multiplat in Japan though. It's obvious the FF fanbase in Japan is all on PS3, or at least 98.5% of the fanbase.

ON a Worldwide basis though I think, going multiplat was a smart move. FFXIII across both platforms has surpassed 6 million. But I reckon if it was PS3 exclusice worldwide it might only have reached 5 million at this point in time. Yes, I reckon an exclusive FFXIII, with the sort of marketing that comes with it, would have sold about 500K PS3's over time throughout Americas and EMEAA. So Sony lost a fair bit from FFXIII going multiplat, but SE gained from it. VsXIII will be an interesting story.



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the've made a few bucks since it was already ported

but it's kinda low