If your plan was to dig out the stupidest Kinect apologist and make him cut a sorry figure, mission complete, with even a bonus, you dug out also the second stupidest one. There were also some Kinect haters that showed us they aren't very bright, but they paled in comparison.

great sales for kinect it is doing really well

Edit: Not gonna bother.

All I'll say is, it's exactly like youtube all over again.

Congratulations, you can all play Kinectimals now.

Ironically what both Kinect and Move will need is a Nintendo game to keep public interest and not fade into the realm of spotty teenagers bedroom. As Nintendo will never write a game for thse it is going to fail

Thanks Brett. Awesome to see you posting and participating a bit more here in the forums. I was a bit sad for a while that you were distant from the forum part of the site.

Yes, but given its features, I see it competing more with Balance Board than anything else. Can it be a pure coincidence that this Xmas for the first time Ninty released an official Wii plus Balance Board bundle? Wii didn't need it, its sales already took off again with the previous bundles, games launches and heavy advertising of Wii's best sellers. I agree about MS advertising K as a platform and many from its target audience perceiving it as such, but this perception can be strong and persuasive only for those that are just looking for or evaluating Kinect with its games and its closest competitors, that is Balance Board, Eye Toy and dance, fitness and some sports and some party games, some possibly bundled with special purpose peripherals, that obviously make Kinect look more general purpose and attractive in comparison. Competition with Balance Board and limited special purpose peripherals, towards which Kinect can show its pros while having little cons, is a thing that makes me believe that considering K a peripheral instead of a platform isn't negative, but it can actually help it instead: for example, Balance Board is obviously better for ski, snowboard, skateboard, surf and a few yoga and fitness games, but Kinect can beat it hands down for dance and most sports and fitness games. Move can be the best, together with Wiimote Plus, for sword and archery games, but they very little overlap with Kinect and BB. About simple party games, each peripheral can be good for a more or less wide range of them. But trying to consider Kinect a whole new platform, with the need to be more general purpose than it actually is, can show all its weaknesses. Edit: but very good Kinect sales together with SW sales varying very widely from success to failure clearly show that not only people like it very much, but they have a very clear idea too about what it's really good at.

I would not know since I haven't played them, but that's besides the point. I was just clarifying that "casual" games that you dislike aren't necessarily bad.

The post that you quoted claimed that Kinect sales may not hold up well due to lack of quality titles and, in this case, that means killer apps. Killer apps, if they are to hold up sales well, have to sell a lot in themselves. If they don't, it's quite unlikely that they'll move their hardware. So far, whilst they seem to be doing well, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, Kinectimals, etc. don't seem to be selling quite well enough to piggy back the rest of Kinect through spring/summer.

Ah wars of semantics. I consider Kinect a half-platform really, going by how its performing.

Half new platform, half huge accessory. So its half balance board half Wii.

Going by that, and seperating the demographics buying Kinect into Kinect you get:

X percent buying Kinect as an add-on to their console - and this figure is lower than the figures of people buying Wii Balance Board as an add on to Wii. If 40% of Kinect purchasers are existing X360 owners, we're talking 1.6m vs. 2.6m or something (off the top of my head)

Y percent buying Kinect X360 as a new console - and this figure is lower than the figures buying Wii, DS, PS2, etc at launch. If 60% of Kinect users bought it and X360 to play new games, were taling 2.4m for Kinect-sold consoles in six weeks vs. 2.9m for Wii in six weeks, or whatever the actual figures are.

However, when you take X & Y together, Kinect outperforms Balance Board, or Wii at their launches. But I do think its mathematically disingenious to pretend that there aren't two demographics at work here, rather than a more unified demographic smaller demographic for Wii at launch (the GC fan), and Wii Balance Board (women / expanded audience). If Nintendo had liscenced out Wii controllers to Sony for PS2 in 2006, "Wii" would have been higher too, same is true if "Wii" was sold as an add on to GC in addition to Wii in 2006 in addition to its own package, which is comparable to what Microsoft has done, minus the marginal clock-speed upgrade from GC to Wii.