By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - General Discussion - Fox News tops source of voter misinformation

Killiana1a said:

I will concede MSNBC has emulated Fox News by trying to be the liberal Fox News with Olbermann, Maddow, Matthews, and that crazy guy, yet they still are miles away from CNN and hundres of miles away from Fox News' heels in the ratings race.

That hasn't been the case for quite some time. CNN's ratings have absolutely cratered, and MSNBC has been thrashing them for many months now.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/12/17/larry-kings-finale-cable-news-ratings-for-thursday-december-16-2010/75889



Around the Network

FOX NEWS... The Kings of Lies and ignorants...



badgenome said:
Killiana1a said:

I will concede MSNBC has emulated Fox News by trying to be the liberal Fox News with Olbermann, Maddow, Matthews, and that crazy guy, yet they still are miles away from CNN and hundres of miles away from Fox News' heels in the ratings race.

That hasn't been the case for quite some time. CNN's ratings have absolutely cratered, and MSNBC has been thrashing them for many months now.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2010/12/17/larry-kings-finale-cable-news-ratings-for-thursday-december-16-2010/75889

It's funny Anderson Cooper is  right at the top of the list for must trusted and respected reporters for EVERY political affiliation.

Yet nobody watches him.



When the war started (one of them) one could watch Fox News at night on one of my countries channels. And I certainly did feel more stupid after watching it. Or maybe I was just stupid for watching it. Could be.

I think it's a mystery for people from other countries how anyone can take the reporters on Fox News serious. They do seem to be in a league of their own...for stupid.



Killiana1a said:
Kasz216 said:
Killiana1a said:
badgenome said:

No, Juan Williams doesn't make you balanced. But between Juan Williams, Kirsten Powers, Alan Colmes, Susan Estrich, Bob Beckel, Geraldine Ferraro, Alicia Menendez, Ellis Henican, et al, Fox is easily more balanced than either CNN (whose idea of a conservative is Kathleen Parker) or MSNBC (whose idea of a conservative is probably Dennis Kucinich).

By all means, hold everyone accountable. But all complaints about how shitty the media in general, and cable news in particular, is seem to start and end with Fox News. Granted, they are the ratings leader by lightyears, but no one seriously thinks that's why they're the whipping boy. Nor are they especially bad as far as cable news goes. It's because and only because they dare to lean the other way.

Problem is, all those you listed as progressive are contributors who come in for 2 to 5 minutes at a time.

Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, and Sean Hannity are all conservative and the biggest draws to Fox News in their time slots. Where are their progressive counterparts who have a 1 hour prime time television slot on Fox News?

What about that is different from MSNBC?

Nothing. According to the survey in the original OP, MSNBC is by the least watched news network with Fox News being number 1. I will concede MSNBC has emulated Fox News by trying to be the liberal Fox News with Olbermann, Maddow, Matthews, and that crazy guy, yet they still are miles away from CNN and hundres of miles away from Fox News' heels in the ratings race.

Unfair comparison. Fox News by far is the most watched news network. They are more comparable to NY Times and the Washington Post as far as news media goes. Comparing Fox to MSNBC or CNN is like comparing the NY Times to the East Oregonian. You cannot compare the echelon with the gutter.

Personally, as a far Left progressive my preferred news channel is Fox News. They have the hottest news anchors like Megyn Kelly as Howard Stern will attest to. Furthermore, working 10pm to 6am and getting all my media online I watch them for opposition research and for entertainment in how they twist a story by the very words they use such as "Government Option" instead of "Public Option," which their focus group pollster, Frank Luntz stated support is split 50/50 if the "Public Option" would have been used during the 2010 healthcare debate, while using "Government Option" skews Fox News voters more to 70/30 opposed.

See the problem with what you are saying is that it isn't an unfair comparison.  We have had several comments in this thread saying they should have liberal counterparts on FoxNews, when none of the liberal stations have conservative counterparts (they may refer to them as conservative...but they aren't).



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

Around the Network
Mendicate Bias said:
Baalzamon said:
Mendicate Bias said:
mhsillen said:


he is not a professor your friend is misinformed 

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media

"Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track."

That is from the University of Chicago Law School. 

I don't know if you have ever been to university but many professors are not full time or tenure track as they have obligations in their research or in politics that take up most of their time. Anything else you want me to disprove?

I personally don't know the difference, but the article I posted before says there is a difference in terms of academia...so technically saying he wasn't a professor isn't a lie, but one could say he was, and you really wouldn't be wrong either...what difference does it really make if he was a professor...it just makes me think that much less of him.

I'm going to go with the Universities direct statement on his status instead of a news outlet. The reason i even bothered stating that is because another user was stating fallacies about him that could be proven wrong. 

What do you have against professors? You do realize that the computer your sitting on, the medicine you take, the surgeries you have and your life of comfort is all because of people that were involved in academia and the sciences. This stupid view that uneducated people know more about a subject than a scientist in the same field is the reason why our country is falling so far behind in education and science.

I hate people that try to play off their opinions as facts even though they don't know the first thing about the subject, a good example being evolution or economics.

I see your an expert on everything.  He is not a professor 

And I don't need you to tell me what professors have done in the past. 

I do know that a lot of them lack real world experience. Everything in the classroom is perfect and antiseptic and all of their ideas come to fruition.  But drag it out of the classroom and it isn't so perfect anymore.

President Obama was not vetted and now he looks lost.  And without his teleprompter he sounds just as dumb as Bush did. And the my point stands  press did not do the job they were supposed to do.  The only outlet that did a half hearted attempt was Fox news.  

And I won't even comment on the job cnn,msnbc did on the mid-term elections.  Fox news was balanced out with libs and Conservatives.  While MSNBC were like walking into a drunk frat party

 



Also I don't see the arguement of "They're more popular, therefore worse.

 

They're more popular only because while CNN is in the middle, they still lean a fair bit left.



Updated with Fox's response to the article. Kind of lame if you ask me, if they feel like something is wrong, they should attack the methodology like you guys are doing (or trying to do) here, not the University it was taken at.



Tigerlure said:

Updated with Fox's response to the article. Kind of lame if you ask me, if they feel like something is wrong, they should attack the methodology like you guys are doing (or trying to do) here, not the University it was taken at.


Yeah... I mean, I'm sure he didn't know that "Best Party Schools" fact off hand, meaning it took time to come up with.

 

The methodology is so easy to attack, why they went with a silly cheap shot is beyond me.



Kasz216 said:
Tigerlure said:

Updated with Fox's response to the article. Kind of lame if you ask me, if they feel like something is wrong, they should attack the methodology like you guys are doing (or trying to do) here, not the University it was taken at.


Yeah... I mean, I'm sure he didn't know that "Best Party Schools" fact off hand, meaning it took time to come up with.

 

The methodology is so easy to attack, why they went with a silly cheap shot is beyond me.

And just so I understand, you're criticizing the Survey on the way the questions were asked?