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Porcupine_I said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
Porcupine_I said:
Chibi.V.29 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Guys, ignore RAZ. Sometimes, there's just no point in debating with certain people.


I have know ^^ its like trying to talk to a spoon O.o

there is no spoon!

THEN HOW DO I EAT THIS DELICIOUS ICE CREAM!!!!! :(

i am sure i don't want to know


O.o



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Chibi.V.29 said:

Lol most would agree that the ps3's list of exclusives of last 2 years has been unrivalled (some could argue nintendo this year). what exactualy has the xbox had that i cant counter in under 4.3 seconds?

Um there haven't been any AAA PS3 exclusives since March.

Chibi.V.29 said:

the frase "you can argue with someone whos stupid" comes to mine ^^


I think you wanted to say the word "phrase" and "mind" which in a comment about stupidity, is highly ironic given the source.

Hynad said:

You're one to talk.  Read the topic's first post again, and then maybe you can have a say.  

I can't help it if the TC alters the OP at random after the point.

snfr said:

1. Where did I say that one fanbase is jealous of another one? You said by looking at its' sales even PS3 owners don't want to play UC2 (it has over 4m). How many 360 exclusives have reached that in the same time; Halo and probably Gears, that's it.

You're listing franchises, not games

Halo 3

Halo ODST

Kinect Adventures

Halo Reach

Gears of War

Gears of War 2

Forza 2

No if I were to go around dismissing all critiscism of these games by saying that an opposing console section just wanted them, that would be really immature.

snfr said:

3. and 4. I gave up because you're unreasonable.

It's not unreasonable to demand equality. If the pics in the OP are not meant for comparison, why are they even there? I already said I wouldn't have a problem if he actually posted a real-time pic and the TC has made no attempt to do so.

Scoobes said:

He clarified the rules to ensure their was no misunderstanding.

You can't clarify something that was never there to begin with. It's a case of introducing new rules to affect the outcome

Scoobes said:

The screenshots have nothing to do with the content in the post and it's obvious to everyone he wasn't attempting to incite a screenshot war (which instead, you've tried to start).

If they have nothing to do with it, get rid of them.

Scoobes said:

Not your thread, not the OP rules. You don't get to counter-create rules as all you've done is derail the thread.

So basically anything that jibes with the TC's own views gets managed out of the thread.Gee, no bias at all with that.

Scoobes said:

Fact is, all you've done is try to downplay a game's graphical acomplishments

The topic creator is downplaying all other games on the list by representing one particular game with a level of visuals the developers themselves say they cannot do.

Torillian said:

Raz: get out of this thread, you are quite obviously here just to piss people off and I don't have the time or energy to deal with all the shit you're trying to stir up. 

If it pisses people off to point out something pre-rendered is pre-rendered, they perhaps have too much invested.

Torillian said:

It's obvious you haven't a clue what Uncharted 2 looks like since you've already posted multiplayer screens as singleplayer twice which tells me you are doing your old tactic of googling the game and just scanning through for the worst picture you can find. 

I captured the second image from campaign myself to avoid any confusion.

Jdevil3 said:

And why do you say "Uncharted 2 looks like a 2009 game"? as far as I know, Uncharted 2 was released in 2009... so it IS a 2009 game, what do you want it to look like? a 2015 game? 2009 games look like 2009 games... it's simple logic O_o are we going to call every game that has worse graphics than Uncharted 2 a 2008 game? no, we know most games that will release in 2011 will have worse graphics than Uncharted 2 and I doubt anyone is going to say they look like 2007-2008 games O_o

I said Uncharted 3 (a 2011 game) looks just like Uncharted 2 (a 2009 game)

Jdevil3 said:

Also, why do you say people expect from Uncharted 3 a generational leap "like Crysis 2 or Rage"? I don't see any generational leap in those games... maybe they'll improve their graphics by the time they're released... but I doubt it... even Killzone 2 has better graphics than those games (from what we've seen so far). Maybe you were talking about the PC version? that's the only way what you said makes sense.

Open world? Twice the framerate? I'm just mirroring the post E3 press commentary. I already link to Sessler's Ragegasm.

Jdevil3 said:

And why do you bring that Uncharted 2 received a 9.5 in graphics and Modern Warfare 2 received a 10 into the discussion? I think we both know that Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 has way worse graphics than Uncharted 2. You don't seem to be one of those people who don't know anything about graphics, I'm sure you can see that MW2 has worse graphics than Uncharted 2 and I believe we both agree on that, right? or am I wrong? if I'm right, it doesn't make any sense that you brought that into the discussion O_o

Um it wasn't Uncharted 2, it was god of war 3. It just seemed strange to me to bring up an exclusives graphics when they're rated less than a cross platform game.



I would say all of the pictures in the OP are bullshots.



Tease.

RAZurrection said:
Torillian said:

Raz: get out of this thread, you are quite obviously here just to piss people off and I don't have the time or energy to deal with all the shit you're trying to stir up. 

If it pisses people off to point out something pre-rendered is pre-rendered, they perhaps have too much invested.

Torillian said:

It's obvious you haven't a clue what Uncharted 2 looks like since you've already posted multiplayer screens as singleplayer twice which tells me you are doing your old tactic of googling the game and just scanning through for the worst picture you can find. 

I captured the second image from campaign myself to avoid any confusion.

 

 


No, you really didn't:

http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/crysis-has-some-incredible-tex/977767?page=5

and it really isn't from campaign as you can obviously tell from the guy being in a the suit he wears during the robbery while in the village, something that happens only in the multiplayer.

Again, get out of this thread Raz, this is the last time I ask nicely.



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Torillian said:
RAZurrection said:
Torillian said:

Raz: get out of this thread, you are quite obviously here just to piss people off and I don't have the time or energy to deal with all the shit you're trying to stir up. 

If it pisses people off to point out something pre-rendered is pre-rendered, they perhaps have too much invested.

Torillian said:

It's obvious you haven't a clue what Uncharted 2 looks like since you've already posted multiplayer screens as singleplayer twice which tells me you are doing your old tactic of googling the game and just scanning through for the worst picture you can find. 

I captured the second image from campaign myself to avoid any confusion.

 

 


No, you really didn't:

http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/crysis-has-some-incredible-tex/977767?page=5

and it really isn't from campaign as you can obviously tell from the guy being in a the suit he wears during the robbery while in the village, something that happens only in the multiplayer.

Again, get out of this thread Raz, this is the last time I ask nicely.


To be fair though, you unlock the option of choosing Drake's outfit in the campaign mode.  Heist Drake is one such option.

Still, he's just here to stir shit so I do hope he gets what he deserves soon.



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CGI-Quality said:

Is that an Uncharted 3 screen? O_O

Uhm No!!! It's clearly taken right of the TV.  Sorry to post Uncharted 2 screens. Just don't want someone spreading false information. I am sick of those kind of people who nitpicks and cherry picks a lot just to trash a great game that they didn't even played or because of some extreme bias and incapable of being fair. Everyone who played Uncharted 2 will say that is Unchaarted 2 is one beautiful, graphically game.



RAZurrection said:
Chibi.V.29 said:

Lol most would agree that the ps3's list of exclusives of last 2 years has been unrivalled (some could argue nintendo this year). what exactualy has the xbox had that i cant counter in under 4.3 seconds?

Um there haven't been any AAA PS3 exclusives since March.

Chibi.V.29 said:

the frase "you can argue with someone whos stupid" comes to mine ^^


I think you wanted to say the word "phrase" and "mind" which in a comment about stupidity, is highly ironic given the source.

Name any xbox AAA tital then from this year (that isnt alos on PC lol) and i will counter it easily ^^

as for the second part of this i am actually incredibly offended >_> i suffer from disgraphia so my ability to convey words into phisicle form, weather that be writing or typing is greatly reduced. It does in no way affect my intelligence infact though it effects the english part of my brain it enhances the maths side. Think about what your sayign before you put it. We dont know each other so there is no way you can assume anything about me. NEVER make a comment about such things such as that again. you dont know how you might be offending someone.



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CGI-Quality said:

Didn't think it was, but I was curious. And:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/114/1140768p2.html

IGN's preview should silence any reasonable doubt of Uncharted 3 already being a step above it's predecessor. But sadly, I didn't want this thread to turn into an 'Uncharted 3 vs The World' topic. I was sincerely interested in what people thought regarding the games in the OP, and would have added Deus Ex had it not been so pointlessly derailed.

Spoiler**
Lol!  As far as I can remember it was in Borneo, first stages of the game. Where they need to infiltrate Lazarevic's camp site and look for clues and trails of Marco Polo.

End of spoilers

 

Well, anyways it sad this thread turn into bashing a game thread. 



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I captured the second image from campaign myself to avoid any confusion.

Jdevil3 said:

And why do you say "Uncharted 2 looks like a 2009 game"? as far as I know, Uncharted 2 was released in 2009... so it IS a 2009 game, what do you want it to look like? a 2015 game? 2009 games look like 2009 games... it's simple logic O_o are we going to call every game that has worse graphics than Uncharted 2 a 2008 game? no, we know most games that will release in 2011 will have worse graphics than Uncharted 2 and I doubt anyone is going to say they look like 2007-2008 games O_o

I said Uncharted 3 (a 2011 game) looks just like Uncharted 2 (a 2009 game)

Jdevil3 said:

Also, why do you say people expect from Uncharted 3 a generational leap "like Crysis 2 or Rage"? I don't see any generational leap in those games... maybe they'll improve their graphics by the time they're released... but I doubt it... even Killzone 2 has better graphics than those games (from what we've seen so far). Maybe you were talking about the PC version? that's the only way what you said makes sense.

Open world? Twice the framerate? I'm just mirroring the post E3 press commentary. I already link to Sessler's Ragegasm.

Jdevil3 said:

And why do you bring that Uncharted 2 received a 9.5 in graphics and Modern Warfare 2 received a 10 into the discussion? I think we both know that Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 has way worse graphics than Uncharted 2. You don't seem to be one of those people who don't know anything about graphics, I'm sure you can see that MW2 has worse graphics than Uncharted 2 and I believe we both agree on that, right? or am I wrong? if I'm right, it doesn't make any sense that you brought that into the discussion O_o

Um it wasn't Uncharted 2, it was god of war 3. It just seemed strange to me to bring up an exclusives graphics when they're rated less than a cross platform game.


@bolded No1

Then I guess you must have taken that picture on Dec 16, 2009 or earlier since look what I've found doing a quick search on Google:

 

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6942/raz1.jpg

 

 

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/664/raz2.jpg

 

 

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3784/raz3.jpg

 

I think you're lying about that

 

Specially when you said you played and finished the game. I only played the demo and I'm able to tell the difference between singleplayer models and the multiplayer models you posted. Look at these images I found, I believe they're from singleplayer, you should be able to notice the difference:

 

I believe you're either lying or just trolling, tell me... What are you trying to do?

Also... you never answered me when I asked you why you're trying to pass Uncharted 2 multiplayer screenshots as single player ones? Why are you doing that? O_o

 

 

@bolded 2

 

Yeah, you said that

 

@bolded 3

 

I asked you first, so don't ask me :P. But if you want to know if I think that Open world and Twice the framerate mean a generational leap in graphics then I'll tell you that I don't.

I think a generational leap in graphics means better Anti-Aliasing techniques (Something better than MLAA or a combination of MLAA and at least 4xMSAA), higher resolutions (1920x1080 or 2560x1600), Better motion blur, better lighning, better animations, higher textrures, higher framerate, lack of screen tearing, etc. That's what I believe the jump from this gen to the next one should be like.

I expect at least twice of the best we've seen in this generation to consider that a game has done a generational leap in graphics (or next gen graphics).

Let's take God of War III as an example:

Kratos' textures were around 2048x2048 (don't remember the exact resolution), GoWIII had a resolution of 1280x720, it had a very good lightning technique, no screen tearing, more than 50 enemies on screen, MLAA (it's results are simillar to something between 4xMSAA and 8xMSAA), moving environments and a big scale, pretty good textures in the environment, an average of 45-60 FPS, a very good motion blur technique, etc.

Ok, now I doubt those games are going to have character's textures of 4096x4096, a resolution of at least 1920x1080, more than 100 enemies on screen, some form of anti-aliasing which results are simillar to something between 8xMSAA and 16xMSAA, bigger and better moving environments with animations twice as good as GoWIII and a scale at least 2 times bigger than GoWIII, environments' textures twice as detailed as those on GoWIII, an average of 90-120 FPS and a motion blur technique twice as good as that one implemented in God of War III.

If you believe a generational leap in graphics implies that a game must be open world game and only 60 FPS, you're wrong.

Take the PS2 and PS3 as an example to be able to realize what a generational leap in graphics is. There isn't such a big difference between those 2 games and Killzone 2 to say that they've made a generational leap in graphics :S

 

@bolded 4

Yeah, it was GoWIII but that makes it even worse, God of War III has even better graphics than Uncharted 2... but you think Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 has better graphics than God of War III? it doesn't make any sense.

Hmm... wait, I think it does... 1st you can't tell the difference between singleplayer and multiplayer in Uncharted 2 even though you said you played the game from beginning to end. Then you say that there's a generational leap in games like Crysis 2 when you compare them to other games. And you also seem to believe than MW2 has better graphics than GoWIII.

I think all those facts prove that you aren't able to distinguish the graphical differences in Video Games.

And you no longer need to answer the "why did you try to pass those Uncharted 2 multiplayer screenshots as single player ones?" question since I've already been able to determine the reason myself. You can't even distinguish the difference :O

If you can't tell the differences yourself, there are many sites that state the technical aspects of games.

This is one of those (it seems to be a bit biased towards Xbox 360, but you should only take into account the technical side of things such as framerate, screentearing, resolution, antialiasing, shadows, motion blur, etc and ignore the "opinion" bits):

http://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry

Here's another one (this one seems to be a bit biased towards the PS3, but just do what I said before... their comparisons are a bit poorer, though):

http://www.lensoftruth.com/

 

Those are pretty helpful to make comparisons between games, they usually just compare multiplatform games... but sometimes they analyze the technical aspects of exclusives too... so they're good to learn some stuff about the games you buy or want to buy... or just to learn for curiosity alone.

I hope you find those sites useful... and if you ever find a better one, please tell me.

Sorry if my english sucks.



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