I have know ^^ its like trying to talk to a spoon O.o

Kinda hoped I wouldn't have to intervene, but here we go.

Everyone who insulted Raz: I don't care about the situation, insulting another member isn't allowed.  If I didn't catch what you did and warn or ban you count yourself as lucky and take this as a warning not to do it again in the future.

Raz: get out of this thread, you are quite obviously here just to piss people off and I don't have the time or energy to deal with all the shit you're trying to stir up.  It's obvious you haven't a clue what Uncharted 2 looks like since you've already posted multiplayer screens as singleplayer twice which tells me you are doing your old tactic of googling the game and just scanning through for the worst picture you can find.  Not the best tactic for a debate, but great to piss people off.

I got into the beta for Killzone 3 and I honestly really couldn't tell any difference in graphics between Killzone 3 and Killzone 2. Game still looks just as detailed like Killzone 2 did, but I'm not sure its a noticeable enough improvement from a graphics standpoint. Maybe in the full retail game it will be...

If Uncharted 3 matches Uncharted 2 I think I would award that best graphics over Killzone 3 at this point because I thought the graphics were better in Uncharted 2 over Killzone 2. Seeing more colors in Uncharted 2 might have some influence on my viewpoint.

Infamous 2 looks like another serious graphics contender btw. Seems like a huge improvement over Infamous 1.

Crysis 2 and RAGE are no slouch either. They look amazing. As for Brink I'm not as blown away from a graphics standpoint based on the HD trailers I've watched.

Right now based on HD trailers I would rank it: Uncharted 3, Infamous 2, Killzone 3, Crysis 2, RAGE, Brink.

I think I can't help, but be influenced by the art style too. Technically other games may have more going on behind the scenes.

Why did you try to pass those multiplayer screenshots from Uncharted 2 as single-player ones when you said you played and finished the game? You should know the difference if you really did. I can tell the difference and I only played the demo :P

And why do you say "Uncharted 2 looks like a 2009 game"? as far as I know, Uncharted 2 was released in 2009... so it IS a 2009 game, what do you want it to look like? a 2015 game? 2009 games look like 2009 games... it's simple logic O_o are we going to call every game that has worse graphics than Uncharted 2 a 2008 game? no, we know most games that will release in 2011 will have worse graphics than Uncharted 2 and I doubt anyone is going to say they look like 2007-2008 games O_o

Also, why do you say people expect from Uncharted 3 a generational leap "like Crysis 2 or Rage"? I don't see any generational leap in those games... maybe they'll improve their graphics by the time they're released... but I doubt it... even Killzone 2 has better graphics than those games (from what we've seen so far). Maybe you were talking about the PC version? that's the only way what you said makes sense.

And why do you bring that Uncharted 2 received a 9.5 in graphics and Modern Warfare 2 received a 10 into the discussion? I think we both know that Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 has way worse graphics than Uncharted 2. You don't seem to be one of those people who don't know anything about graphics, I'm sure you can see that MW2 has worse graphics than Uncharted 2 and I believe we both agree on that, right? or am I wrong? if I'm right, it doesn't make any sense that you brought that into the discussion O_o

I agree with you when you say that the gameplay showed from Uncharted 3 seems to have the same graphics Uncharted 2 had... but if you can see and realize that, it doesn't make any sense that you can't see the difference between U2 singleplayer and multiplayer, think that Crysis 2 and Rage are a generational leap in graphics and MW2 has better graphics than U2 O_o It's far from being logical O_o

there is no spoon!

mw2 doesn't have better graphics than u2. fact

THEN HOW DO I EAT THIS DELICIOUS ICE CREAM!!!!! :(

That's exactly what I said :P

i am sure i don't want to know

LOL sorry i must have miss read. i thought u said it looks better and i was like >_> waah? :P sorry