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RageBot said:

Evolution doesn't work for a spiecies, it's something like - someone who randomly is better adapted to his enviorment is born, and after hundreds of thoudands of years his special attribute makes his decendants the only ones left.

With they way humanity is now it just won't happen, there's just to much variety, and not enough danger, for something like that to happen (not to mention that mankind will probably destroy itself sometime in the next 200 years).

The only way for evolution to continue working is if someone who can live forever is born, and actually gets to live long enough to have many offspring etc etc...

We are already different from the humans of the middle ages, (longer and less body hair)

It is hard to tell if we will change more or not.

Some scientists say that the trend points to our little toes being gone in a few thousands of years.



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KungKras said:
RageBot said:

Evolution doesn't work for a spiecies, it's something like - someone who randomly is better adapted to his enviorment is born, and after hundreds of thoudands of years his special attribute makes his decendants the only ones left.

With they way humanity is now it just won't happen, there's just to much variety, and not enough danger, for something like that to happen (not to mention that mankind will probably destroy itself sometime in the next 200 years).

The only way for evolution to continue working is if someone who can live forever is born, and actually gets to live long enough to have many offspring etc etc...

We are already different from the humans of the middle ages, (longer and less body hair)

It is hard to tell if we will change more or not.

Some scientists say that the trend points to our little toes being gone in a few thousands of years.

Well, small changes occur over time, but a leap between spiecies is something that takes a very long time.



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Evolution's taking place all the time, gradually and extremely slowly. I

t's not like there's going to be some major changes within the span of one or several generations, lol.



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RageBot said:

Evolution doesn't work for a spiecies, it's something like - someone who randomly is better adapted to his enviorment is born, and after hundreds of thoudands of years his special attribute makes his decendants the only ones left.

Except from lab study shows because of sex if a person does have one of these so called "small beneficial  step" that is need for evolution it will most likely get deluded and over time completely disappear.

Scientist has known for a long time about the problem of trying to get each "baby step" to become fit in a population. Evolution requires a lot of death for every beneficial step.

Think of an alien man from space came to earth and could mate with woman on earth. This alien was just like humans except just a little superior ( a few baby steps) than the human race. When he mates with a earthly woman he slighty superior genes will be mixed with the woman's inferior genes. So his offspring will be inferior than the alien. With every generation the alien genes are more and more deluded and eventually  genetic drift will cause the gene totally disappear.

 Now if the alien was asexual and made clones of itself. Eventually the alien population could get large enough to wipe out the inferior human race from the planet. 



Soleron said:
Chairman-Mao said:

There will be no more human evolution thanks to modern technology. Evolution comes from the need for something, but since we can build whatever we need we aren't going to evolve.

The only evolution that's possible now is from artificial selection.

That's just my opinion. 

Certain early-life fatal conditions and diseases will continue to be selected against, and selection of sexual characteristics (and preferences) will continue as long as people can choose who they have children with. But I tend to agree.

Yeah that's true. Isn't selection of sexual characteristics artificial selection though?

I think you're right about early life conditions.



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Smidlee said:
RageBot said:

Evolution doesn't work for a spiecies, it's something like - someone who randomly is better adapted to his enviorment is born, and after hundreds of thoudands of years his special attribute makes his decendants the only ones left.

Except from lab study shows because of sex if a person does have one of these so called "small beneficial  step" that is need for evolution it will most likely get deluded and over time completely disappear.

Scientist has known for a long time about the problem of trying to get each "baby step" to become fit in a population. Evolution requires a lot of death for every beneficial step.

Think of an alien man from space came to earth and could mate with woman on earth. This alien was just like humans except just a little superior ( a few baby steps) than the human race. When he mates with a earthly woman he slighty superior genes will be mixed with the woman's inferior genes. So his offspring will be inferior than the alien. With every generation the alien genes are more and more deluded and eventually  genetic drift will cause the gene totally disappear.

 Now if the alien was asexual and made clones of itself. Eventually the alien population could get large enough to wipe out the inferior human race from the planet. 


...What?

Genes don't mix with genes dude, you either have them, or you don't.

Check how the concept of recessive and dominant genes work.



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Honestly, the primary selection pressure in modern society is intelligence as far as I can tell. The more intelligent we are, the more we can manipulate our environment to adapt to our needs instead of the other way round.

Therefore, I say we continue to grow in intelligence until we come to the point where we can easily evolve ourselves! Disease resistance, physical characteristics, better sensory perception etc. If you want to go completely sci-fi, maybe we'll figure out how to go without sleep or make it so that we photosynthesise.

Evolution in the future will be whatever we want it to be.



Our bodies could still adapt to new things. I can imagine that we will be able to substitute water for alcohol, our women won't grow hair in their armpits, and Justin Bieber will die eventually so we may be able to get some more of evo-love.



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RageBot said:
Smidlee said:
RageBot said:

Evolution doesn't work for a spiecies, it's something like - someone who randomly is better adapted to his enviorment is born, and after hundreds of thoudands of years his special attribute makes his decendants the only ones left.

Except from lab study shows because of sex if a person does have one of these so called "small beneficial  step" that is need for evolution it will most likely get deluded and over time completely disappear.

Scientist has known for a long time about the problem of trying to get each "baby step" to become fit in a population. Evolution requires a lot of death for every beneficial step.

Think of an alien man from space came to earth and could mate with woman on earth. This alien was just like humans except just a little superior ( a few baby steps) than the human race. When he mates with a earthly woman he slighty superior genes will be mixed with the woman's inferior genes. So his offspring will be inferior than the alien. With every generation the alien genes are more and more deluded and eventually  genetic drift will cause the gene totally disappear.

 Now if the alien was asexual and made clones of itself. Eventually the alien population could get large enough to wipe out the inferior human race from the planet. 


...What?

Genes don't mix with genes dude, you either have them, or you don't.

Check how the concept of recessive and dominant genes work.

I have basicly 50 % of my father's genes and 50% of my mother's.  If I could easily recieve a beneficial gene from my father then turn around get an inferior gene from my mother(not even related to the beneficial one). Then you have the majority of neutral  mutation which makes it hard for a beneficial gene to become fit.



Smidlee said:
RageBot said:
Smidlee said:
RageBot said:

Evolution doesn't work for a spiecies, it's something like - someone who randomly is better adapted to his enviorment is born, and after hundreds of thoudands of years his special attribute makes his decendants the only ones left.

Except from lab study shows because of sex if a person does have one of these so called "small beneficial  step" that is need for evolution it will most likely get deluded and over time completely disappear.

Scientist has known for a long time about the problem of trying to get each "baby step" to become fit in a population. Evolution requires a lot of death for every beneficial step.

Think of an alien man from space came to earth and could mate with woman on earth. This alien was just like humans except just a little superior ( a few baby steps) than the human race. When he mates with a earthly woman he slighty superior genes will be mixed with the woman's inferior genes. So his offspring will be inferior than the alien. With every generation the alien genes are more and more deluded and eventually  genetic drift will cause the gene totally disappear.

 Now if the alien was asexual and made clones of itself. Eventually the alien population could get large enough to wipe out the inferior human race from the planet. 


...What?

Genes don't mix with genes dude, you either have them, or you don't.

Check how the concept of recessive and dominant genes work.

I have basicly 50 % of my father's genes and 50% of my mother's.  If I could easily recieve a beneficial gene from my father then turn around get a bad gene from my mother. Then you have the majority of neutral  mutation which makes it hard for a beneficial gene to become fit.

And you should probably read all of my post, not just the part of it that you quoted.



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