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How did the star wars prequels go so wrong? Does Lucas Realise it?

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After seeing many people hate the prequels in the recent Georgs Lucas thread I think this is a right time to talk about this subject. I want to ask all of you, how do you think they went so wrong? How did the man that gave us Star Wars, empire strikes back and return of the jedi completely destroy his own creation with the prequels? The problem for me is its hard to accept Lucas lost all the talent he had and created what is known as the worst big budget movie (Phantom Menace), how can a man make one of the best movies but also one of the worst big budget movies? 

Lets forget how they went so wrong. My next problem is did he never realise that the The phantom menace was awful during production, or during pre release viewings. Did he never realise the person who played Anakin in Episode 2 could never act. Did he never see how wooden the acting was, why did he never try to correct that, I can't believe he couldn't tell how wooden the acting was. Was there ever a moment during the productions of the phantom menace and attack of the clones where Lucas said "Oh sh*t, what have I done?". I hope he could see his mistakes, I don't know if he did.

Final point, did no-one else apart from Lucas realise how awful the films were? Did the actors never tell him the script sucks, or the producers, managers or co-workers? Maybe the script proof readers? Were they all afraid of telling him the movies weren't heading the right way, but they put their and the films reputation at stake for Lucas' ego? Every person who turned a blind eye during the production of The Phantom Menace is to blame.



    
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watch the red letter media reviews, then you know everything that is wrong with them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

Personally they receive so much bad press it seems most just jump on the bandwagon nowadays. They aren't THAT bad at all, and in fact, episode three (particularly the final half) is a very good film, and for me at least worthy of being mentioned with the original trilogy. The films had issues of course, but unfortunately Harrison Ford kicks so much ass that he's pretty hard to follow on from. 



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i dont mind the prequels but then again im not a massive star wars fan



Bladeneo said:

Personally they receive so much bad press it seems most just jump on the bandwagon nowadays. They aren't THAT bad at all, and in fact, episode three (particularly the final half) is a very good film, and for me at least worthy of being mentioned with the original trilogy. The films had issues of course, but unfortunately Harrison Ford kicks so much ass that he's pretty hard to follow on from. 

I agree Episode 3 is a good film, thats why I never mentioned it by word in the opening post. By prequels I mainly mean The Phantom menace and Attack Of The Clones. They are atrocious films if we look at it objectively, but you have full right to like them as your opinion.



    
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George Lucas doesn't know what is good anymore is why.

 

See: Indy 4 and the butchering of the original Star Wars trilogy.



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I loved phantom menace... though I can't argue it's quality, and I can't argue it's plot holes, and I can't argue it's logic. there was just something quirky that entertained me. And I love it for no logical reason at all.


But I didn't like the others.
Indy 4 was okay and had some really good moments... ya know Indy going in the lead fridge that was awesome!... it wasn't a disaster like the SW prequals (Not counting Phantom Menace which I liked XD), probably because spielbirg directed it


they are all much better than transformers. And I stand by that.



I'm sure Lucas is crying all the way to the bank.



The Xbox Man said:
Bladeneo said:

Personally they receive so much bad press it seems most just jump on the bandwagon nowadays. They aren't THAT bad at all, and in fact, episode three (particularly the final half) is a very good film, and for me at least worthy of being mentioned with the original trilogy. The films had issues of course, but unfortunately Harrison Ford kicks so much ass that he's pretty hard to follow on from. 

I agree Episode 3 is a good film, thats why I never mentioned it by word in the opening post. By prequels I mainly mean The Phantom menace and Attack Of The Clones. They are atrocious films if we look at it objectively, but you have full right to like them as your opinion.

Well that's fair enough. Phantom Menace is saved by virtue of how good the duel with Maul and Qui-Gon/Obi-Wan is, it's very very good, but the rest of it is just...meh. He was definitely going for an Episode 4 approach with a slower paced story, but it just didn't work because the characters weren't as good. Outside of the aforementioned three, really you just had an annoying anakin kid running around. And FUCKING JAR JAR. God. 

Lucas' problem is that he tries to do too much with the films. He tries to make it political, and appealing to kids, while being appealing to the older fans and whatnot, and it just doesn't work. The best films set out to do one thing and they do it exceptionally well, some of them manage to do others by accident, but I don't see Tarantino trying to make Pulp Fiction political/kid-friendly/action-packed etc, it's story and character driven and thats great. 

Lucas needs to go back and really watch Episode 4/5 again. The action in three was perfect, but it again got lost in the Padmé/Anakin rubbish, which the awful writing and sub-par acting from Hayden really couldn't carry. Natalie Portman gets a lot of criticism, but what more could she do with that writing? 



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Porcupine_I said:

watch the red letter media reviews, then you know everything that is wrong with them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI



Those are genius actually. Not just his Star Wars reviews but all the reviews that he does. They do pretty much sum up everythung that is wrong with the films and i hope he gets round to doing episode 3 sometime soon.