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Possible for PS3 to be 4th on GT5s launch week?

You're crazzzy! 125 32.13%
 
Yup DS>Wii>360>PS3 166 42.67%
 
I have no idea 26 6.68%
 
I want to see results! 72 18.51%
 
Total:389
Zlejedi on 30 November 2010

4th place on VGC numbers

3rd place after next year adjustments ;)



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DonFerrari on 30 November 2010
badgenome said:

Of course. Remember, GT5 moved 360s by getting people to go to the store.

And people who bought Move also bought two WM.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 30 November 2010
Wagram said:

I actually helped a woman buy a PS3 today at my local Gamestop. I pissed the sales clerk off bad. He was trying to sell her a used 60GB PS3 for like 350 bucks. She wanted backwards compatability but I talked her into a new PS3 for 299.99. I could never work at Gamestop, that business is horrible.


Kudos for being a great man.

And also for selling a trackable new unit =]



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 30 November 2010
BenVTrigger said:
Wagram said:
BenVTrigger said:
Wagram said:

I actually helped a woman buy a PS3 today at my local Gamestop. I pissed the sales clerk off bad. He was trying to sell her a used 60GB PS3 for like 350 bucks. She wanted backwards compatability but I talked her into a new PS3 for 299.99. I could never work at Gamestop, that business is horrible.


Really Gamestop is horrible?  I'm a district manager for Gamestop and I can tell you straight up we are far from horrible.

I have just had bad experience with that business for a very long time. Ranging from over pricing used games. Trying to sell used games as new ones. A new sticker with a scratched game IS NOT NEW. How can you sell a USED 60GB PS3 for 300-350 dollars? Hopefully you are an exception.


Really over pricing pre-owned games?  This is the most hilarious argument we here all the time.  The problem is that gamers apparently don't know anything about how you run a business.  You do realize we have to make a profit correct?  You also do realize that we buy more games from customers than we sell back to customers at over a 2:1 ratio correct?  That means that for every one game we sell back to another customer there's another one we bought off someone that is just sitting back in the stock room or warehouses that is just lost money.  On top of that you have to factor in not every dollar of a resale goes to straight OMGZ GUYZ GAMESTOP PROFIT! LETS SCREW GAMERS! We also have to pay the expenses of our over 5,000 stores and thousand upon thousands of employees.  Not to mention money that we pay to Nintendo, Sony, EA, Activision, etc for other promotional deals.  

Are there going to be some problems?  Of course any time you factor in the human element there will stuff that slips through the cracks but the hate we get at Gamestop is straight up laughable.  I personally manage and know several hundred employee's and I can tell you right now nearly every one of them loves games and gaming in general just as much as anyone else on these forums and quite frankly its not cool the way they get disrespected.

Anyways I won't take up anymore of this space going off topic.

I had to laugh... if you buy 2:1 to sell... maybe this is because of the abusive price?

I buy from Game.co.uk (I'm from Brazil) and the used games is usually 30% or less than new ones... Sports games

for 2 pounds (new iteration for 40), and other games (not seasonable) for 5 pounds and so on.

 

I don't think they overprice the games, and even less the freight, 5 pounds to send to brazil, while american stores put the cost up to 50 dollars.

 

Edit: Altought i believe a store have to charge as much as the customer is willing to pay, so if you can run your bussiness with this kind of price all the better for you, but I'll always search for the best condition to myself.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

welshbloke on 30 November 2010

It will probably be closer than I would of at first thought.

 

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IvorEvilen on 30 November 2010
BenVTrigger said:
Wagram said:
BenVTrigger said:


Really over pricing pre-owned games?  This is the most hilarious argument we here all the time.  The problem is that gamers apparently don't know anything about how you run a business.  You do realize we have to make a profit correct?  You also do realize that we buy more games from customers than we sell back to customers at over a 2:1 ratio correct?  That means that for every one game we sell back to another customer there's another one we bought off someone that is just sitting back in the stock room or warehouses that is just lost money.  On top of that you have to factor in not every dollar of a resale goes to straight OMGZ GUYZ GAMESTOP PROFIT! LETS SCREW GAMERS! We also have to pay the expenses of our over 5,000 stores and thousand upon thousands of employees.  Not to mention money that we pay to Nintendo, Sony, EA, Activision, etc for other promotional deals.  

Are there going to be some problems?  Of course any time you factor in the human element there will stuff that slips through the cracks but the hate we get at Gamestop is straight up laughable.  I personally manage and know several hundred employee's and I can tell you right now nearly every one of them loves games and gaming in general just as much as anyone else on these forums and quite frankly its not cool the way they get disrespected.

Anyways I won't take up anymore of this space going off topic.


1.) I know Gamestop is a business, but it still doesn't change the fact that you guys screw people over when buying games. You buy a game for 59.99 on launch and the next day they'll give you 25 bucks? WTF is that shit? Also you see used games in Gamestop going for higher than it would cost you to buy it for new at places like Walmart, Amazon, and eBay. (NEW, not USED)

2.) Your store isn't Gamestop as a whole. Half the people I have seen who work there don't give a rats ass about gaming or know anything about it. Like the person I went I talked to about Final Fantasy XIV. She told me it didn't exist and that I should get WoW instead because other people buy it. WTF is that?

I don't manage a store.  I manage 23 stores.  Gamers should be thankful they are even offered an opportunity to trade in their games for store credit.  You don't like our prices sell em to your friends.  That easy.  I have no problem with that at all.  The fact is however we take significant risk in what we do and try to help gamers experience.  You say how its ridiculous that we take a new game back for 25 bucks but you wouldn't think that at all if you went into one of the backrooms of my stores and saw the pile of 50 God of War 3 games all bought back from customers for 25 dollars a piece and aren't going anywhere.  We aren't a Mom and Pop shop, we are the single largest retailer specialized in gaming on the planet and when we are talking price points we aren't discussing the difference between 25 dollars and 60 dollars.  We are discussing the difference between 25 million and 75 million dollars.


Just because you work at Gamestop, and that Gamestop oversaturates itself in used games, doesn't mean that Gamestop is alright as it is.  Most of the arguments against Gamestop are well-grounded, whether you like it or not, so don't act all high and mighty about "serving" gamers.

A lightly used game isn't worth $25... or the <$5 that Gamestop has always tried to give me.  It isn't worth the $55 that Gamestop charges either... or the $40 that they charge for the ones they purchased for less.  Gamestop isn't in the best interest of the consumer; its best interest is itself (which, dont' get me wrong, isn't a bad thing, it is a company).  The problem is that consumers are often uninformed and lazy.  The internet, with websites like Ebay are the correct choice of action.  Besides, those 50 God of War 3 games were way cheaper than an extra 50 new ones that Gamestop would have to purchase to replace them (not that I really buy the whole 2:1 ratio, as I definitely see more people purchasing games than selling them back, and you can't really buy back more games than you are selling either... as that would outnumber the amount already out in consumers' hands).

Anyway, Gamestop really isn't helping the industry at all, and is infact a leech that is hurting it.  Gamestop isn't a necessary establishment, and consumers would be just as well without it.

OT:  IMO, it really just depends how word of mouth is persuading new buyers for Kinect.  Then again, Kinect could be what is rekindling interest in the Wii, as consumers just want motion control and go for the cheapest outlet.



dunno001 on 30 November 2010

Okay, guys, let's get back to the topic. This isn't a bitch about or defend Gamestop thread. That is off-topic, and may be deemed as spamming. (If there can be a civilized topic on it, please create a new thread for it.)

For the topic itself, I think it's possible, though not assured. I do think 3rd and 4th places will be fairly close, though I am giving the nod to the 360 for 3rd. I will also guess that #1 (DS) sales will be about equal, or maybe a little less, to the HD consoles added together, so by definition, PS360 >> Wii for sales. A rough guess for all:

DS: 1.5m

Wii: 1.1m

360: 800k

PS3: 750k

PSP: 220k



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toastboy44562 on 02 December 2010

whooo it happened! looks like 360 is going to beat ps3 this week! I wasn't crazzy!!!



dunno001 on 02 December 2010

Yeah; looks like I was a little under on many of my predictions (especially PSP, I expected smaller uptakes on that; oops), but I'm otherwise happy with how I guessed.



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Seece on 02 December 2010
jneul said:

no ps3 will not be 4th lol, there are going to be even more hatres upset, 1st upset was gt5 sales, 2nd upset will be ps3 sales in gt5 week, you better prepare yourselves

prepare ourselves for what?