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in my opinion criterion games(owned by EA)is THE best racing game producer .

I love arcady and hate sim driving games like forza or GT.

watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wAC-zdL0I0

heart pumping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRzHynbccT4

boring

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-P-iQMhECg

boring

Gee I don't know, the go-Karts are pretty damn fun. So far I don't find the game boring. The good old upgrades for turning your little Toyota into a staged 3 turbo and fully worked upgrade still gives me one hell of a buzz. It makes you fall all in love with your cars. Gt does this best, IMO. Always has.

Cant say I agree on that.  Forza offers WAY more customization and upgrades than Gran Turismo does.  I don't know I'm trying to love GT5 but I'm just not succeeding.  I think the big reason for that is due to the fact that I've already played Forza 3 and GT doesnt feel like that big step up like I thought it would.  In fact in some ways like graphics it actually falls short of Forza in alot of ways.  Great game still just certainly not the definitive racer this gen in my opinion.

how is the car tuning anyway? I was kinda worried after GT PSP that it might be limited. Can you still upgrade a dozen parts and fine tune (gear ratios, brake balance etc) all the cars? 

Meh i will take forza and gran turismo anyday over anything ea or codemasters can hack together

Yes. Also you can buy things chrome exhausts and carbon fibre hoods now that increase performance and are actually visible on the cars.

They're right though. From a sales perspective, it's hard to argue against GT5p's sales, but the majority of the industry would much rather an arcade racer than a sim racer. F1 reviewed well and sold well, but not one peep came out of the gaming press. The popular podcasts didn't acknowledge it, barely any articles were written for it and it just left a big feeling of disinterest on their end.

Most of the press have a crush on Criterion, who has some very talented developers, but that crush can also be very dangerous sometimes. I've noticed that nearly every racer that comes out is some how compared to Burnout Paradise at one point, which is ridiculous because not every racer wants to be like Burnout. It's similar to the industries love of Infinity Ward, Harmonix, Valve and Blizzard, no matter what those developers do, they'll always be praised for it, mainly because of how well they get along with most of the press on a personal level.

The press got a taste of something they like (arcade racers) and now they'll judge everything else based on that new found taste until something else comes along and changes their mind.

The same thing applies to WRPG's over JRPG's, Pacman over Tetris, Street Fighter over every other fighting gaming, Uncharted over every other adventure game and Gears of War over every other third person shooter. What ever's trendy in the gaming press is the new standard that every other game must be compared to and it's pretty annoying.

EA and Codemasters can comment on what appeals to racing fans when they develop a franchise that consistantly sells over 10M units with each iteration.