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Jordahn said:
damndl0ser said:
Jordahn said:
damndl0ser said:
Jordahn said:
damndl0ser said:
Jordahn said:
damndl0ser said:

To everyone talking shit at this announcement, just wait and we will see.  Either MS will be eating the crow or you will be one?  I for one think the numbers must be seriously fucked or they wouldn't comment about them so I will wait and see and possibly be wrong too.  I guess time will tell, but I will take their numbers over anyone elses, because instead of dozens or hundreds (at best) of polling they have thousands and tens of thousands....  

 

Long story short, wait and see.....


So you're siding with Microsoft?


I said I would take a wait and see, but I do come to a conclusion that our numbers are off or they wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the numbers.  To those saying they are running this big budget add campaign, yes they are.  But they aren't going to make theirselves look like a fool just to undermine it.  Other than people like us who are interested in numbers the every day public has no idea what VGChartz is or what it does.  So even if the numbers are 100% on track the average Joe would still have little to no idea that it wasn't the sales beast MS says it is.  Meaning MS has no reason to diss our numbers other than them being off.


I personally think VGChartz is fairly accurate, and it doesn't matter if they are off as long as they make a good logical effort.  And why do you care if Microsoft makes a mistake ("look like a fool")?


Where exactly did I say that I gave a damn if Microsoft made a mistake?  I just said their not going to say something like that unless they have some sort of proof its wrong and that I would take their numbers instead.   Why are you in every thread that has anything to do with Kinect sense your so against it?   And why is it your personal mission to contradict every poster that has a differing opinion than you? 

By the way, I also think VGChartz does a hell of a job or I wouldn't be here.  Just because I simply disagree with their current Kinect numbers means jack shit.  I still love the site and will continue to frequent it as long as its here.


Microsoft ROOLZ!!!  KinECT da BOMZZE!!!  Okay...?


Yet another lame attempt to deflect an answer.  Good going I expect nothing more from you at this point.

We'll you were making a lot of false accusations, and I was just asking a few legit questions.  There was really no need for you to get so defensive.  Since you had to make false accusations of me, maybe I can accuse you of deflecting question, but I didn't.  You need to learn to calm down just because everyone doesn't live in your world.  That's life.


What accusations do you speak of?  I have made none other than my own personal beliefs.  And I am not defensive, I was asking you a simple question that you deflect yet again by making wild accusations about me.  The question once again:  Why are you in every thread that has anything to do with Kinect if you don't like it so much?  And why do you feel the need to go after anyone with a different belief than you?

Of course I don't expect an answer.  And I will get another deflection or strait attack at me.  Cheers, I have made my peace.



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damndl0ser said:
Jordahn said:
damndl0ser said:
Jordahn said:
damndl0ser said:
Jordahn said:
damndl0ser said:
Jordahn said:
damndl0ser said:

To everyone talking shit at this announcement, just wait and we will see.  Either MS will be eating the crow or you will be one?  I for one think the numbers must be seriously fucked or they wouldn't comment about them so I will wait and see and possibly be wrong too.  I guess time will tell, but I will take their numbers over anyone elses, because instead of dozens or hundreds (at best) of polling they have thousands and tens of thousands....  

 

Long story short, wait and see.....


So you're siding with Microsoft?


I said I would take a wait and see, but I do come to a conclusion that our numbers are off or they wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the numbers.  To those saying they are running this big budget add campaign, yes they are.  But they aren't going to make theirselves look like a fool just to undermine it.  Other than people like us who are interested in numbers the every day public has no idea what VGChartz is or what it does.  So even if the numbers are 100% on track the average Joe would still have little to no idea that it wasn't the sales beast MS says it is.  Meaning MS has no reason to diss our numbers other than them being off.


I personally think VGChartz is fairly accurate, and it doesn't matter if they are off as long as they make a good logical effort.  And why do you care if Microsoft makes a mistake ("look like a fool")?


Where exactly did I say that I gave a damn if Microsoft made a mistake?  I just said their not going to say something like that unless they have some sort of proof its wrong and that I would take their numbers instead.   Why are you in every thread that has anything to do with Kinect sense your so against it?   And why is it your personal mission to contradict every poster that has a differing opinion than you? 

By the way, I also think VGChartz does a hell of a job or I wouldn't be here.  Just because I simply disagree with their current Kinect numbers means jack shit.  I still love the site and will continue to frequent it as long as its here.


Microsoft ROOLZ!!!  KinECT da BOMZZE!!!  Okay...?


Yet another lame attempt to deflect an answer.  Good going I expect nothing more from you at this point.

We'll you were making a lot of false accusations, and I was just asking a few legit questions.  There was really no need for you to get so defensive.  Since you had to make false accusations of me, maybe I can accuse you of deflecting question, but I didn't.  You need to learn to calm down just because everyone doesn't live in your world.  That's life.


What accusations do you speak of?  I have made none other than my own personal beliefs.  And I am not defensive, I was asking you a simple question that you deflect yet again by making wild accusations about me.  The question once again:  Why are you in every thread that has anything to do with Kinect if you don't like it so much?  And why do you feel the need to go after anyone with a different belief than you?

Of course I don't expect an answer.  And I will get another deflection or strait attack at me.  Cheers, I have made my peace.

"Why are you in every thread that has anything to do with Kinect sense your so against it?   And why is it your personal mission to contradict every poster that has a differing opinion than you? "

Like I said:

"... everyone doesn't live in your world.  That's life."



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Damn, VGChartz is getting heat from MS. Although I still trust this site's numbers ! They overtracked / undertracked in places where it's hard to find data. Since I joined, I never seen VGChartz overtrack / undertrack any console by a margin of 500,000 in the Americas.



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Microsoft uses Vgchartz to poll Kinect. :-p



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Frieza said:

This is why people laugh at this site you see.


but then the numbers come out and the VGC numbers are in line with what MS is claiming.  Are those people going to apologize?



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Torillian said:
Frieza said:

This is why people laugh at this site you see.


but then the numbers come out and the VGC numbers are in line with what MS is claiming.  Are those people going to apologize?


So Microsoft's now claiming "over 1 million"....

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413119



jarrod said:
Torillian said:
Frieza said:

This is why people laugh at this site you see.


but then the numbers come out and the VGC numbers are in line with what MS is claiming.  Are those people going to apologize?


So Microsoft's now claiming "over 1 million"....

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413119

Exactly, I'd say 1.3m and 1.1m are fairly close and definitely aren't something to use to whine about the site's credibility.  Brett did pretty well tracking Kinect so far and should be commended.  I don't expect Frieza and all those he alludes to to come out and apologize but it would be nice ^^



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