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bobbert on 03 November 2010
Seece said:

getting back on topic! I wonder what sell through they expect to achieve? Looks like Kinect Adventures is going to become a 10 million seller after all!


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BeLiKeCLuTcH on 03 November 2010

So BiggerThanHaLo ? hahaha

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libellule on 03 November 2010

IF move can do 3M these holidays

I can easly see kinect doing 5M ...



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DirtyP2002 on 03 November 2010

 

Xbox 360's Kinect Will Be 'Sold Out a Lot,' says Ubisoft

 

Microsoft is pushing their new Kinect camera system hard, with a massive campaign and a launch event in Times Square to kick things off. Publishers seem excited by the device's prospects, and Ubisoft in particular is a huge believer in the motion camera. Speaking to IndustryGamers, Ubisoft's SVP, sales and marketing, Tony Key commented that Kinect will likely be quite difficult to get this holiday season because the demand will be incredible.

"We’re supporting this system in a big way. We believe in it, and to be blunt about it, depending on how fast Microsoft can make these units and replenish these units, we believe that the Kinect is going to be hard to get. It’s going to be sold out a lot this holiday season," he said. "We try to project how many units of the hardware will be in the marketplace. We know how many they’re making. We know how many they’re telling us they’re making. What we don’t know is the demand for that. We believe they’re not making enough to satisfy demand, not by their own choice, because they’re making them as fast as they can. We’re optimistic that the attach rate of Kinect will be really good to the launch titles because the machine, the hardware, is cool, and that it will be selling out a lot."

He continued, "We’re there with three launch titles. We want to support Kinect; we think it’s good for the industry. We think it could be really good for Ubisoft. We’ve believed in 3D camera technology for a long time. We’ve been working on 3D camera technology for many years and even years before we ever even heard of Natal. We’ve believed in this tech, we’ve been doing research. We’ve got an experience level that I think gives us a competitive advantage over most of our competitors. For us, this is a big play and big reward potentially."

It should be noted that this interview took place before Microsoft raised their sales forecast for Kinect from 3 million units to 5 million units.

 

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/xbox-360s-kinect-will-be-sold-out-a-lot-says-ubisoft/

 

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Mr Puggsly on 03 November 2010

When you combine advertising from Oprah and Ellen you get get incredible results.



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CrazyHorse on 03 November 2010
Squilliam said:

I wonder why they upped their predictions. Did they find additional supply? Did they get some more feedback from the market or a combination of the two? It is hard as it stands to know precisely how much they will sell and linked to this precisely how much they have to sell. However since they have better data on the former and perfect on the latter I would trust that their projection ought to be within plus or minus 20%

(does anyone know if plus is fixed yet?)

 

I wonder if the relative success of Move has made them rethink their estimates? If Sony are to be believed and have had to increase production to meet a higher than expected demand then I expect MS would be fairly happy. I don't see why they wouldn't expect a similar (and probabaly greater) success with Kinect, especially given their marketing push. I wouldn't put too much faith in pre-order numbers as an indication of sales as, like others have said, Kinect should do very well over the holidays.



Squilliam on 04 November 2010
CrazyHorse said:
Squilliam said:

I wonder why they upped their predictions. Did they find additional supply? Did they get some more feedback from the market or a combination of the two? It is hard as it stands to know precisely how much they will sell and linked to this precisely how much they have to sell. However since they have better data on the former and perfect on the latter I would trust that their projection ought to be within plus or minus 20%

(does anyone know if plus is fixed yet?)

 

I wonder if the relative success of Move has made them rethink their estimates? If Sony are to be believed and have had to increase production to meet a higher than expected demand then I expect MS would be fairly happy. I don't see why they wouldn't expect a similar (and probabaly greater) success with Kinect, especially given their marketing push. I wouldn't put too much faith in pre-order numbers as an indication of sales as, like others have said, Kinect should do very well over the holidays.

I don't really see them looking to Move at all for their numbers. They already have data and that data gets better as they can see the feedback from their recent advertising moves with Ellen and Oprah etc. Remember both Brett and Pachter has Move for 5M unique users by March, they are looking at 5M within 8 weeks. Completely different sales rates.



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reidlosdog on 04 November 2010
Squilliam said:
CrazyHorse said:
Squilliam said:

I wonder why they upped their predictions. Did they find additional supply? Did they get some more feedback from the market or a combination of the two? It is hard as it stands to know precisely how much they will sell and linked to this precisely how much they have to sell. However since they have better data on the former and perfect on the latter I would trust that their projection ought to be within plus or minus 20%

(does anyone know if plus is fixed yet?)

 

I wonder if the relative success of Move has made them rethink their estimates? If Sony are to be believed and have had to increase production to meet a higher than expected demand then I expect MS would be fairly happy. I don't see why they wouldn't expect a similar (and probabaly greater) success with Kinect, especially given their marketing push. I wouldn't put too much faith in pre-order numbers as an indication of sales as, like others have said, Kinect should do very well over the holidays.

I don't really see them looking to Move at all for their numbers. They already have data and that data gets better as they can see the feedback from their recent advertising moves with Ellen and Oprah etc. Remember both Brett and Pachter has Move for 5M unique users by March, they are looking at 5M within 8 weeks. Completely different sales rates.


Whoa, when you put it like that, yeah, they are pretty different. Could Kinect have sold 10 mill by March?  More?

I never looked at it like that.  This is scary.  Someone might die because they'll fight for a Kinect.  Anyone ready to buy $1000 Kinect on Ebay?  Well someone will be.

What is this going to do to Microsofts Console sales?  They are probably going to sky rocket right?

With those 2 questions, here comes the risky one, and I'm asking it cause it'll probably on everyone's minds if Kinect does well.

Will the Xbox 360 catch up to the Wii?



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theonewhoisme on 04 November 2010
Squilliam said:
CrazyHorse said:
Squilliam said:

I wonder why they upped their predictions. Did they find additional supply? Did they get some more feedback from the market or a combination of the two? It is hard as it stands to know precisely how much they will sell and linked to this precisely how much they have to sell. However since they have better data on the former and perfect on the latter I would trust that their projection ought to be within plus or minus 20%

(does anyone know if plus is fixed yet?)

 

I wonder if the relative success of Move has made them rethink their estimates? If Sony are to be believed and have had to increase production to meet a higher than expected demand then I expect MS would be fairly happy. I don't see why they wouldn't expect a similar (and probabaly greater) success with Kinect, especially given their marketing push. I wouldn't put too much faith in pre-order numbers as an indication of sales as, like others have said, Kinect should do very well over the holidays.

I don't really see them looking to Move at all for their numbers. They already have data and that data gets better as they can see the feedback from their recent advertising moves with Ellen and Oprah etc. Remember both Brett and Pachter has Move for 5M unique users by March, they are looking at 5M within 8 weeks. Completely different sales rates.

I think the only reason they upped their numbers is because of moves success and want to make people think kinect is going to do better then move no matter what, I mean we know they were lying about the sold out thing, if they really were sold out with only 300k preorders then they couldn't even make 5mil by the end of the year and we have no sales in for kinect yet no real information besides preorders, and with the amount they spent on marketing and hype they should be alot better I seriously doubt MS is going to get anywhere near this, seems like their just saying "if move can sell 3 mil were going to sell 5" to me



Squilliam on 04 November 2010
reidlosdog said:
Squilliam said:
CrazyHorse said:
Squilliam said:

I wonder why they upped their predictions. Did they find additional supply? Did they get some more feedback from the market or a combination of the two? It is hard as it stands to know precisely how much they will sell and linked to this precisely how much they have to sell. However since they have better data on the former and perfect on the latter I would trust that their projection ought to be within plus or minus 20%

(does anyone know if plus is fixed yet?)

 

I wonder if the relative success of Move has made them rethink their estimates? If Sony are to be believed and have had to increase production to meet a higher than expected demand then I expect MS would be fairly happy. I don't see why they wouldn't expect a similar (and probabaly greater) success with Kinect, especially given their marketing push. I wouldn't put too much faith in pre-order numbers as an indication of sales as, like others have said, Kinect should do very well over the holidays.

I don't really see them looking to Move at all for their numbers. They already have data and that data gets better as they can see the feedback from their recent advertising moves with Ellen and Oprah etc. Remember both Brett and Pachter has Move for 5M unique users by March, they are looking at 5M within 8 weeks. Completely different sales rates.


Whoa, when you put it like that, yeah, they are pretty different. Could Kinect have sold 10 mill by March?  More?

I never looked at it like that.  This is scary.  Someone might die because they'll fight for a Kinect.  Anyone ready to buy $1000 Kinect on Ebay?  Well someone will be.

What is this going to do to Microsofts Console sales?  They are probably going to sky rocket right?

With those 2 questions, here comes the risky one, and I'm asking it cause it'll probably on everyone's minds if Kinect does well.

Will the Xbox 360 catch up to the Wii?

Console sales will definately increase. By how much? I cannot say. I guess we'll find out but I would hate to speculate ahead of time. Could they skyrocket? Could the Xbox 360 outsell the Wii? Maybe actually thats a good question. The only thing im confident in is that 2010 will be the Xbox 360s peak year thus far and this would be at minimum a 5th calendar year peak.

Will the Xbox 360 catch the Wii? Probably not. However it'll come much closer IMO and perhaps make any casual observer looking back forget how powerful the Wii was in its first few years.



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