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SpartenOmega117 said:

Second:

The biggest difference between Christianity and Islam is the belief of Jesus and who he was

Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. Many Christians might assume that if you are not christian you don't believe in Jesus or God.

Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet. Basically Jesus is a messenger of God who came to Earth to spread God's word. Its not like us Muslims disregard Jesus. He is one of the Greatest Prophets of all time and he play a key role in the Islamic religion. He is also suppose to be an important figure in the time when life on earth is suppose to end. In the Quran there is even a chapter in it called Mary which talks about jesus and virgin mary.

I guess that Muslims take the "son of god"  more literally. We believe that to be the son of god that would mean that god had a wife and had a child named Jesus. I don't think christians believe that god had a wife do they? I guess the reason Muslims take it literally because the Quran is actually quite scientific. If you want to know more of the science of quran visit this webiste if you want http://www.quranandscience.com/

I have also heard from somewhere before that Muhammad was told by God to help 'reinstate' the Word of God because around that time, many people did not take heed to what Jesus said and taught. So basically Muhammad was spreading the Word because many people were not affected with what Jesus had said.

Also, Mary is considered the 'mother' of God because in Christianity (I'm Catholic), Jesus is God in human form. So in turn, Mary gave birth to God in the form of Jesus (as a human).

OH, and another thing. Many people do not realize that in the past around the time of Christ and just mainly the Bible, people around the countries like in Israel are considered "Arabic." My teacher at my private school told us students in class that Arabs are desert dwellers and are nomadic, and Israel IS considered in the Middle East (of sorts). And she pointed out that for all we know, since Israel is dry enough, Israelites were said to have a darker complexion as well (mainly tan). Whether or not that goes with the saying "Jesus is black," it could be alluded because of the people in that area tend to have a darker complexion due to being in a sunlit environment (an all-year round tan).



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Wait... what the heck is the Zabur and why have I never heard of it before.

Is that mentioned in the Koran and I just forgot it?



Kasz216 said:

Wait... what the heck is the Zabur and why have I never heard of it before.

Is that mentioned in the Koran and I just forgot it?


even though it is wikipedia it provides the basic knowledge of zabur. have a look

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zabur



Naraku_Diabolos said:
SpartenOmega117 said:

Second:

The biggest difference between Christianity and Islam is the belief of Jesus and who he was

Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. Many Christians might assume that if you are not christian you don't believe in Jesus or God.

Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet. Basically Jesus is a messenger of God who came to Earth to spread God's word. Its not like us Muslims disregard Jesus. He is one of the Greatest Prophets of all time and he play a key role in the Islamic religion. He is also suppose to be an important figure in the time when life on earth is suppose to end. In the Quran there is even a chapter in it called Mary which talks about jesus and virgin mary.

I guess that Muslims take the "son of god"  more literally. We believe that to be the son of god that would mean that god had a wife and had a child named Jesus. I don't think christians believe that god had a wife do they? I guess the reason Muslims take it literally because the Quran is actually quite scientific. If you want to know more of the science of quran visit this webiste if you want http://www.quranandscience.com/

I have also heard from somewhere before that Muhammad was told by God to help 'reinstate' the Word of God because around that time, many people did not take heed to what Jesus said and taught. So basically Muhammad was spreading the Word because many people were not affected with what Jesus had said.

Also, Mary is considered the 'mother' of God because in Christianity (I'm Catholic), Jesus is God in human form. So in turn, Mary gave birth to God in the form of Jesus (as a human).

OH, and another thing. Many people do not realize that in the past around the time of Christ and just mainly the Bible, people around the countries like in Israel are considered "Arabic." My teacher at my private school told us students in class that Arabs are desert dwellers and are nomadic, and Israel IS considered in the Middle East (of sorts). And she pointed out that for all we know, since Israel is dry enough, Israelites were said to have a darker complexion as well (mainly tan). Whether or not that goes with the saying "Jesus is black," it could be alluded because of the people in that area tend to have a darker complexion due to being in a sunlit environment (an all-year round tan).



The peninsula is considered Arab home, even in the Koran it's stated that the spiritual home of all Islam is found in the Peninsula, yes Arabs have been nomadic. However Israel is was not part of Arabia and is not part of Arabia. Another poster pretty much gave much of the uncontestable history behind Muslim conquests to show that Saudi Arabia as well as a few surrounding areas are what is considerd by even Muslims as Arabia.

One of the most confusing aspects of Jerusilem is that it holds no spiritual value to Muslims yet they fight for it so much.



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babuks said:

USA and other developed western countries preach that they give freedom of speech, but prohibits Hijab. They show hatred towards muslim Hijab but have no problem with Christian Nuns. An employee of BBC got suspended for preaching false death news of the Queen. But the people believe the freedom is given. Who follows blindly now? 

This list can go on... But I don't want to compare Muslims with Christians because that is not the issue we are talking about. We are talking about Islam and Christianity. They both have similarities and differences. Let's take the similarities and keep aside the differences. 

 

When the subject is, "Islam and Christianty are almost the same!" and such an argument wants to be raised in a forum, expect people who disagree and show such to do such.  Even if the religions aren't nearly the same as you like, it doesn't mean that Christians, Muslims, Atheists, and anyone else can't coexist in a modern society, and discuss the differences.  As far as I see it, Islam undermines completely the heart and core of Christianity.  Christianity is NOT about rules and laws.  It is about love and Jesus.  One has to consider what Paul wrote also on all things, in order to understand what is Christianity today.  And I say this, because the word "Christianity" isn't found in the Bible anywhere.  The word "Christian" is, but not "Christianity".  If you want to discuss "Christianity", therefore, you need to discuss what it consists of today and the past, and the essential part of it is what Paul wrote.

So, I will say, you can't just discuss similarities, and keep aside the differences, particularly if you want to argue they are almost the say when they aren't.

 

Also, who bans the hijab in the United States?  There may be a few places that it is banned, but it is not banned all over.  As I see it, those who are trying to ban it, are doing an assault against Islam, and don't understand the first amendment and freedom of religion.  Other nations don't have a constitution like the USA does, so they do things like this.



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... you know I am arab and lived there most of my life and the author of this post is full of it.

Hijab to hide from servants? Hijab because the husband wanted to hide his wives out of jealousy (to prevent them from getting any attention from anyone ever in their life) is 10000000x more likely. You think that somehow, muslim men of old were more enlightened than the rest of the world in their treatment of woman back in those days? Sorry cousin, but you are certified brainwash material. We enslaved our woman long before islam and we continued that trend when judiesm (islam and all others) was established. Proof is in our laws regarding obedience and how we treat women who break the laws. Even today, its ok for a man to go to europe, the usa or even dubai to have sex with anyone they want (even gay men wont get severely punished) but if a woman did the same she would be brutally stoned to death in public or jailed after public humilation. This is the reality of our countries and religion. I have seen it with my own eyes in Kuwait before the iraq invasion and in the Soudia. What a sad state we are in to allow such things to happen today and it explains why terrorists have flourished. Our people are too cowardly to fight back. Have some respect for yourself and tell the truth.The hijab was nothing more than mans jealousy and fear. This is why our women are so benign, unhappy, and timid. We turned them into mindless drones. Sad but 99.9% true.

Frankly, i hope for all your sakes that there is no god because if there is, i promise you that no jew, christian or muslim will be going anywhere near heaven. I dont know about other religions but I assume they are all the same. The religions are all man made and have perverted the truth and abused people over it for centuries and we keep letting it happen. Some of their teaching might be good, but the religions of jesus, god, and mohammed are all false on the basis of belief. Sorry to burt your bubbles.



dib8rman said:



The peninsula is considered Arab home, even in the Koran it's stated that the spiritual home of all Islam is found in the Peninsula, yes Arabs have been nomadic. However Israel is was not part of Arabia and is not part of Arabia. Another poster pretty much gave much of the uncontestable history behind Muslim conquests to show that Saudi Arabia as well as a few surrounding areas are what is considerd by even Muslims as Arabia.

One of the most confusing aspects of Jerusilem is that it holds no spiritual value to Muslims yet they fight for it so much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dome_of_the_rock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Mosque

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Mount

 

TheTemple Mount is one of the holiest sites in Sunni Islam and also considered holy in Shia Islam.



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Rath said:
dib8rman said:
 



The peninsula is considered Arab home, even in the Koran it's stated that the spiritual home of all Islam is found in the Peninsula, yes Arabs have been nomadic. However Israel is was not part of Arabia and is not part of Arabia. Another poster pretty much gave much of the uncontestable history behind Muslim conquests to show that Saudi Arabia as well as a few surrounding areas are what is considerd by even Muslims as Arabia.

One of the most confusing aspects of Jerusilem is that it holds no spiritual value to Muslims yet they fight for it so much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dome_of_the_rock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Mosque

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Mount

 

TheTemple Mount is one of the holiest sites in Sunni Islam and also considered holy in Shia Islam.



Thank's but I mean't in the Qu' ran. From what I gather the only mention of anything to do with Jerusilem in the Qu' ran is that it is speculated that Muhhamad would turn to Jerusilem and cast his prayer to Allah.

However the gesture was disingenuous as he refused to do it again when the Hebrews refused to accept Islam, mind you this was before a Muslim fighting Army would be strong enough to cease Jerusilem and build the Dome of Rock.

However the term Dome of Rock as the foundation rock is misleading as the original foundation rock is found in Mecca, the confusion here has me wondering if the whole story was just made up or not.

Fact is they seem to have 3 old places of worship in Israel but it seems moot as Qu' ranic verses make very clear that the only Holy Place is in Arabia as in the whole of Arabia, that none of it should ever fall claim to any one that is not a follower of Islam. That was the context I remember from those verses. In that drawing of a line, no line was drawn around Jerusilem placing it in Arabia, instead it only says that Muhmmad looked towards Jerusilem when praying.

My point is if I didn't make it clear is that the prophet prayed toward Mecca and the black stone not Jerusilem and the prophets and that it is custom to erect mosque's in conquered lands.



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To go further the Prophet also prayed to Pagan gods until he kissed the black stone Ellah in the Kabah in Mecca, then he slaughtered most of the Pagans. If only we could play out history differently to see if the Hebrews would of seen the same fate under the Prophet if they had allowed Islam with open arms to enter their society.



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