I'm wondering, do you think Sony forces retailers to buy their consoles whether they are wanted or not? Or is it that you think Sony are basically breaking multiple international business laws by lieing on financial reports?

So NPD, Media Create, and everyone else tracked the PS3 horribly wrong in the Apr. - Jun 2010 quarter?How can a console ship more units during a quarter in which its selling far less units in every region. Where are all these systems going? Look at the little analysis I posted and you can see it makes no sense.

I shouldn't say Sony lied about how many they shipped, but there's obviously a huge discrepancy between the Sony shipped numbers and every sales tracker, not just VGChartz, however inaccurate this site may be.

Why compare Sony's shipped PS3 numbers, with Microsoft's shipped 360 numbers when there is a huge discrepancy between sold and shipped for the PS3, which is not there for the 360. The 360 has actually sold close to its shipped numbers, while the PS3 hasn't, which means the gap is much bigger than the shipped numbers make it appear.

maybe........ it all depends on kinect.

I'll just spoil it for you now. NPD and Media Create only account for North America and Japan sales. VGChartz has been underestimating PS3 sales in developing nations for almost two years now. The new numbers rectify this. Sony's numbers aren't wrong. Nintendo's numbers aren't wrong. Microsoft's numbers aren't wrong. NPD's numbers aren't wrong, Media Create's numbers aren't wrong.

Maybe I am missing something here but NPD is for US only (not the rest of NA), Media Create is for Japan only? So for your Jan-Mar 2010 sold total you get 1.48m yeah? 

Umm, what about GFK that covers Europe/AUS and a whole lot of others. Did you forget about this?

And at the end of the day, Sony can only report shipped figures using definitive data on their part. In other words, if you do not believe their shipped data reports you are delusional and it highly suggests you are a "true believer" of the opposition. I am saying, when undeniable evidence is thrown in your face you still refuse to believe and draw the conclusion that there is malicious misrepresentation taking part that happens to be also an offence under law. You are being ridiculous and are deluded.

What doesn't make sense to me is how Sony shipped more units in the Apr. to Jun. 2010 quarter than in the previous one, despite the fact that NPD and Media Create show that sales dropped from the previous quarter. Don't tell me sales were going up dramatically in other regions while decreasing in NA and Japan... Surely sales would be dropping everywhere worldwide.

I know that I don't have the whole world covered with NPD and Media Create, the point is that sales dropped in these regions from the previous quarter, yet Sony shipped more PS3s than the previous quarter.

It doesn't add up and no one can explain it yet. I'm not trying to claim that Sony lied, I'm just wondering why they're shipping more units in a quarter where they sold far less units.

Do you know why it doesn't add up Pirateogta? It's because...it's a conspiracy! Maybe Sony is sending us answers, yeah answers or, or cryptics or something! Why won't anybody help this young feller, WHYYYYY!???!?!?question mark!?!?!

On topic: It does seem odd that shipments would go up after sales have fallen a bit but that's likely due to the fact that sales never actually fell. VGChartz does their job well but it's not perfect, same with all other trackers and you can't expect everything to add up to the definitive number from main source (Sony). EU could have also gone up a bit as well but who knows.

This!!! And if PS3 is profitable now why MS EDD has more profits than the entire SONY company?????

LOL!!!!

some of the 360 fanatics still can't handle the adjustments and are still implying SONY IZ LYING?

AHAHAHAHAH!

I know I know its hard to accept it specially if your a die hard PS3 hater.

OT:

GT5 need to come out this holidays for it to have a better chance of happening, plus don't underestimate the competition(kinect).

trust me you don't want to go through what the PSmove will flop ppl are going through right now LOL!

and one number $500,000,000